80% 1911 Frame?

[DnS121111]

Best 80% 1911 frame to use and rail or no rail on the bottom of frame not the Ares 80% I want a solid frame to use whats out there?

[Whiskey_Tango]

Tactical Machining is pretty legit. They should be back in stock soon.http://www.tacticalmachining.com/1911.html

[rm1911]

How is it possible to still do an 80% 1911 now without SSE? I would be interested if it is still possible.

[BEE]

Nice kits over at 1911builders.com. I've seen pics and vids of their products and they look like really nice quality products.

http://1911builders.com/collections/frontpage

[pterrell]

I wish I could find a decent jig to use since i don't have a mill

[RickD427]

How is it possible to still do an 80% 1911 now without SSE? I would be interested if it is still possible.

Please give a close read to Penal Code section 32000. It's technically possible to build your own 1911, but practically impossible to do so.

To make your build legal, you would need to fit your weapon with a Loaded Chamber Indicator, Magazine Disconnect and Microstamping. You would also need to complete the DOJ testing process.

You should also be aware of the provisions of California's Zip Gun statute. It is a complete mess to understand, mostly for the way that it incorporates the federal excise tax into the definition of a Zip Gun. If you read the Zip Gun law as cautiously as possible, your build must match the pattern of a weapon made by a licensed manufacturer.

I don't know of any licensed 1911 manufactures that make an LCI, Mag Disconnect, Microstamping version of the 1911.

[lowriderryda]

So it illegal then?

[DnS121111]

Well IDGAF what any of that sh#t says because technically just like when you build a Ar you have the right manufacture firearms for personal use just not for sale its not like anyone will know when you built it anyways.

[epwegmann]

Rick,

I had always thought that it being truly manufactured as a single shot was still acceptable( as with. 80% AR pistols), the part than ran afoul was the conversion of a previously semiautomatic into single shot. (Not trying to be an ***, honest question).

Erik

Please give a close read to Penal Code section 32000. It's technically possible to build your own 1911, but practically impossible to do so.

To make your build legal, you would need to fit your weapon with a Loaded Chamber Indicator, Magazine Disconnect and Microstamping. You would also need to complete the DOJ testing process.

You should also be aware of the provisions of California's Zip Gun statute. It is a complete mess to understand, mostly for the way that it incorporates the federal excise tax into the definition of a Zip Gun. If you read the Zip Gun law as cautiously as possible, your build must match the pattern of a weapon made by a licensed manufacturer.

I don't know of any licensed 1911 manufactures that make an LCI, Mag Disconnect, Microstamping version of the 1911.

[RickD427]

Rick,

I had always thought that it being truly manufactured as a single shot was still acceptable( as with. 80% AR pistols), the part than ran afoul was the conversion of a previously semiautomatic into single shot. (Not trying to be an ***, honest question).

Erik

Erik,

Copy re: the honest question. Here's my cut at an honest answer. Please let me know if I miss the mark.

The killer here was the change in the SSE law that took place back on January 1st.

Last year, it would have been possible to legally manufacture a dimensionally compliant single shot pistol based on the 1911 design. However, after January 1st, such pistols now must also be either "Break Top" or "Bolt Action" in design. That new requirement really kills the 1911 platform. Things are a little different for the AR pistol affectionados, there are many ways to build the AR platform that meet either the "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action" criteria.

Most folks really took note of the part of AB1964 that prohibited a semi-auto from being converted to single-shot, but you've also got to deal with the other part about "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action".

[umd]

Most folks really took note of the part of AB1964 that prohibited a semi-auto from being converted to single-shot, but you've also got to deal with the other part about "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action".

You just need a break top or bolt action upper like pachmayr dominator, Springfield sass, etc.

[edgerly779]

^^^ wrong.Randall has posted on another post about this . 80% 1011s do not need above mentioned items chamber indicator etc. More fud on here.

[umd]

^^^ wrong.Randall has posted on another post about this . 80% 1011s do not need above mentioned items chamber indicator etc. More fud on here.

You would of course only need those things (plus microstamping) if you were going to try to get your pistol on the roster.

However Randall also thinks you don't need to worry about the unsafe handgun rules at all, which is a position not shared by many on Calguns.

[Varg Vikernes]

Please give a close read to Penal Code section 32000. It's technically possible to build your own 1911, but practically impossible to do so.

To make your build legal, you would need to fit your weapon with a Loaded Chamber Indicator, Magazine Disconnect and Microstamping. You would also need to complete the DOJ testing process.

You should also be aware of the provisions of California's Zip Gun statute. It is a complete mess to understand, mostly for the way that it incorporates the federal excise tax into the definition of a Zip Gun. If you read the Zip Gun law as cautiously as possible, your build must match the pattern of a weapon made by a licensed manufacturer.

I don't know of any licensed 1911 manufactures that make an LCI, Mag Disconnect, Microstamping version of the 1911.

Pretty sure this is FUD.

I was thinking of getting this:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/stealth-arms-1911-lower-receiver-jig-kit?a=1747832

and a Mill sometime after.

You will need a mill because you wanna do it right. There is gonna be a lot of hand fitting with a 1911 too so do it right.

[morrcarr67]

Pretty sure this is FUD.

I was thinking of getting this:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/stealth-arms-1911-lower-receiver-jig-kit?a=1747832

and a Mill sometime after.

You will need a mill because you wanna do it right. There is gonna be a lot of hand fitting with a 1911 too so do it right.

While there are some things I disagree with Rick on the post you mentioned of his is right on.