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  • #16
    static2126
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2013
    • 5619

    Yup..I'm still in the market for a P07 2014 for 900 or so but no sellers..makes me sad...

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    • #17
      MikeA04
      Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 276

      Originally posted by SDM44
      20% markup? LOL.

      I'd be happy if I got 5% over what I paid for my off roster guns, even the unfired ones that I have sitting around still (Shield NTS, VP9, G19 & FDE G17 Gen 4, LC9S Pro, etc). Just enough to cover my time having to drive around to different LGS's for a PPT since I'm busy these days.
      I was figuring 20% before tax and SSE fee.
      I figured 690 for a gen4 is better than the 800+ I see people asking for.

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      • #18
        Click Boom
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2013
        • 6955

        Originally posted by keenkeen
        Good idea...

        That will be $5.00 please.
        Actually he's in almost 6 grand by post count. you can send it to me, I'll make sure it's properly accounted for.

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        • #19
          DCF
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1188

          Originally posted by static2126
          Yup..I'm still in the market for a P07 2014 for 900 or so but no sellers..makes me sad...
          Wow you are willing to pay $900 and still no offers? At that price I might be tempted to sell mine but I will feel guilty for taking advantage of another calgunner.

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          • #20
            static2126
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2013
            • 5619

            Originally posted by DCF
            Wow you are willing to pay $900 and still no offers? At that price I might be tempted to sell mine but I will feel guilty for taking advantage of another calgunner.


            Yup...amazing right. I just turned downa 1k Sig P320 sale though (me as seller) so who am I to talk I guess

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            • #21
              rm1911
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4073

              Value is vague and arbitrary (JB Say). The problem with "off roster values" is were the only state that has a roster. So the marketplace here is about the best, and only, place. But again, value is vague and arbitrary. What someone asks and what someone gets...well, that's two different things. What sellers think and what buyers think are just that. Opinions. And they mean nothing to anyone anywhere at all except for the two parties involved. Any other listing, different buyer and seller, entirely different opinions.
              NRA Life Member since 1990

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              • #22
                GM4spd
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 5682

                Originally posted by redrex
                I just wish calguns would charge something for posting. $5 a post would make a lot of the sillyness go away.

                Should charge more------ $20 minimum. Pete

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                • #23
                  ????? ????
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 991

                  Originally posted by rm1911
                  The problem with "off roster values" is were the only state that has a roster.
                  Maryland and Massachusetts have gun rosters.

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                  • #24
                    bsg
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 25954

                    Originally posted by funk_drum
                    How do I know if I'm getting a good deal?
                    the pain that comes with or shortly after paying the cost of admission will most likely subside or leave altogether as the pleasure of ownership overrides doubt. if this doesn't happen, you might have paid too much.

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                    • #25
                      ontmark
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1237

                      This is the way I see it.
                      OK it is used or new and on the roster
                      You find it in a free state at X dollars.
                      Free State add shipping FFL to FFL can go Priority Mail usually + $20.00 to $25.00.
                      Local receiving gun store will add $50 to $75 to the bill and also add sales tax which could be almost 10%
                      Add it all up.
                      Off Roster already in state. Price it out of State. Has to go PPT because it is off Roster.
                      PPT in State. No Shipping Charge, No FFL Mark Up, No Sales Tax. Add it all up equals what you actually pay for the firearm. I would probably give $175 over value to buy new PPT because no sales tax and remember you may not get Manufacture Warranty. Used the highest I would consider plus $75 dollars from Free State find.
                      Something you really want and is popular good luck. Right now I feel prices are over inflated because of the end to SSE. Give it time. How many firearms do people really want to care for and shoot. Again the price you pay for it is what it costs from your wallet. Buying PPT you do not pay sales tax which could be a chunk if you bought it from LGS new or used.

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                      • #26
                        dhc226
                        Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 163

                        Originally posted by MikeA04
                        I was figuring 20% before tax and SSE fee.
                        That comes out to less than what people had likely paid (depending on the county). You would be wise to consider this when viewing an offered item that cannot be (or is not easily) repaced. Some sellers may very well be unreasonable, but I assure you they are dwarfed in numbers when compared to the stratospheric number of unreasonable buyers in the secondary marketplace.
                        Last edited by dhc226; 02-12-2015, 7:59 PM.

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                        • #27
                          I Swan
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 8770

                          Depends on gun. Some off roster guns aren't in high demand. Say like an older Taurus 357 revolver. Some are the latest fad or mall ninja approved like a HK VP9 so the market is whatever someone feels they want to be bent over to get one. I buy off roster guns all the time for good prices but they tend to be stuff nobody really cares about.

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                          • #28
                            SIGscout
                            Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 216

                            And there is always the hope to meke a few extra bucks off some people like this guy http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3#post15771573 but like has been said, if it is wanted badly enough... Oh or if you're a fool.
                            When someone asks how may guns do you need, the proper answer is, "How many are there?"

                            Cal Guns stuff http://www.gunsr4.us/index.html

                            Donate http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=108030

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                            • #29
                              1CavScout
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3234

                              Originally posted by ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
                              Maryland and Massachusetts have gun rosters.
                              If you look at their rosters, it appears they are still able to add guns unlike CA because of micro stamping. They both have a lot of new guns on their roster that we don't. I think that makes a huge difference.
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                              • #30
                                morrcarr67
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 15018

                                Originally posted by I Swan
                                Depends on gun. Some off roster guns aren't in high demand. Say like an older Taurus 357 revolver. Some are the latest fad or mall ninja approved like a HK VP9 so the market is whatever someone feels they want to be bent over to get one. I buy off roster guns all the time for good prices but they tend to be stuff nobody really cares about.
                                So you're the one buying the weird before I get a chance to.

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                                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                                Originally posted by Erion929

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