CCW application DENIED !

[Bajacracker]

UGHH ! I need help with some information fellow CG'ers. The worst scenario that could have happened to me happened.

I applied for my CCW in Alameda county on July 17th of 22. I just received a letter that reads, "My application is discontinued for the following reason".

:Your background investigation yielded an existence of a felonious record.
:You were not forthcoming in your application form about your interaction with law enforcement.

I was arrested when I was 18 for driving with a suspended license and lying to a police officer. Case was dismissed. I did not enclose that information as I assumed it was irrelevant since it happened 36 years ago and I was not convicted. Could this be what they are referring to ? No idea what they are referring to regarding a "Felonious Record" ! Do I have any option to appeal or find out what they are referring to ? If not, can I re-apply at a later date ? I looked extensively for information regarding a CCW denial in Ala, County and I could not locate any information that says when I can re-apply or how to appeal. Do I contact IA ? Any information is much appreciated. ✌

[3xX]

I'd say those reasons would be consistent with being arrested driving on a suspended license and lying to a police officer. Unless the question asked a specific time frame any and all police interaction should have been disclosed regardless of conviction status. Includes everything from being a witness to a crime, to a traffic ticket, to felony assault.

Can't speak to Alameda, but from what I've seen in other counties, 2 years seems to be the common suggested duration to reapply after a denial. When you reapply you will likely be asked if you've applied before and have been denied. You'll need to explain why you were denied. Only ACSO can provide you additional information and if an appeal is possible.

Based on what you've said though, it's unlikely an appeal would be in your favor. Best bet would be to get clarification on your questions with ACSO.

[Bajacracker]

I'd say those reasons would be consistent with being arrested driving on a suspended license and lying to a police officer. Unless the question asked a specific time frame any and all police interaction should have been disclosed regardless of conviction status. Includes everything from being a witness to a crime, to a traffic ticket, to felony assault.

Can't speak to Alameda, but from what I've seen in other counties, 2 years seems to be the common suggested duration to reapply after a denial. When you reapply you will likely be asked if you've applied before and have been denied. You'll need to explain why you were denied. Only ACSO can provide you additional information and if an appeal is possible.

Based on what you've said though, it's unlikely an appeal would be in your favor. Best bet would be to get clarification on your questions with ACSO.

I am a dumbass ! Thank's for the info ! ✌✌✌

[TrailerparkTrash]

Driving on a suspended license is not a felony. The letter mentions a felony. That seems odd. Also to deny somebody a ccw for something that was committed 36 years ago in high school days is ridiculous. I hope you get an appeal.

[Bajacracker]

Driving on a suspended license is not a felony. The letter mentions a felony. That seems odd. Also to deny somebody a ccw for something that was committed 36 years ago in high school days is ridiculous. I hope you get an appeal.

Ya, the felonious charge has me wondering if they have my info screwed up. Gonna call IA on Monday morning and see what can be done. ✌

[sbo80]

have you passed background checks to purchase firearms? If you really have a felony record, that would fail too. That would suggest they got some info mixed up.

[Jeepergeo]

How, precisely, did you answer this question?

"Have you withheld any fact that might affect the decision to approve this license?"

Before assuming the IA messed up your application, double check everything YOU put on the application.

[Sam .223]

When I applied to my county Sheriff I forgot to include something that happened 20 plus years ago. It was suppose to drop off my record after a certain amount of time, but the back ground investigator said the FBI back ground check lists all offenses weather they were suppose to drop off or not, so you need to include everything on your application. Luckily my IA was ok with asking some follow up questions and getting my answers before any judgement was made and the problem was corrected. There should be an appeal process you can go through but I don't know anyone that's been successful with it yet.

[Skip_Dog]

They had questions and required clarification on one incident on my application. I listed the wrong agency. It involved a local PD and I mistakenly put down County Sheriff. They let me correct it during interview. I really did forget who the responding agency was. A lot of beer was involved that night.

[Bajacracker]

have you passed background checks to purchase firearms? If you really have a felony record, that would fail too. That would suggest they got some info mixed up.

Absolutely !!! I was thinking the same thing. I have purchased several firearms over the last 5 years. The latest being 3 weeks ago. Never any hiccups whatsoever. Hell, I have government clearance to maintain the HVAC equipment through my job at the FDA building and the DEA building here locally. The process to receive that clearance was damn near 6 months long. I was initially denied clearance back in 2015 for having a sub 650 credit score. Come Monday I am contacting the Sheriffs department of records. Going to get a copy of my arrest history and go from there. I should have done that before applying but I thought it would be a breeze with my DEA clearance, type 03 FFL and COE. ✌

[CSACANNONEER]

Sounds like they found someone with the same name and haven't paid attention to your livescan results. I would contact them and ask them if they would be willing to explain why they believe you're a felon?

[yakdout]

Not only is driving with a suspended license not a felony, I don?t think there is a law that says you can?t lie to a police officer.


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[Rustlin’ Jack]

Not only is driving with a suspended license not a felony, I don?t think there is a law that says you can?t lie to a police officer.


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Even though it is out of the Vehicle Code, it applies to all false statements to to an officer charged with Vehicle Code enforcement.

From leginfo:

VEHICLE CODE - VEH
General Provisions ( General Provisions enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )
31.
No person shall give, either orally or in writing, information to a peace officer while in the performance of his duties under the provisions of this code when such person knows that the information is false

[Bajacracker]

Even though it is out of the Vehicle Code, it applies to all false statements to to an officer charged with Vehicle Code enforcement.

From leginfo:

Ya, I'm guilty as sin for that one. I knew my license was suspended so I gave my brothers information. I was just about to get off with a warning when his partner found my wallet stuffed under my seat. My heart dropped as he was walking to me. He pulled out my license and asked, "You wouldn't happen to know who ------ is would you" ? The things we do when were young !!!

[L84CABO]

Assuming the rest of your record is clean, being denied for something that small that happened 36 years ago is some bull-crap. They may, however, be more pissed off that you didn't disclose it (even though it makes sense why you didn't).

I would try to talk to them and make sure you understand exactly what the problem is and how they view it. You may also wish to speak to an attorney on this. Particularly as I understand that Alameda ain't exactly 2a friendly.

This is the problem with the way Ca continues to administer CCW's. The notion that you could lose your right to bear arms over such a minor issue that is 36 years old is absolutely unconstitutional. Hence the reason you may with to talk to a lawyer.

Good luck and keep us posted how things go!