Santa Clara

[haw1144]

I agree the threads for SCC should just be merged. Will add what I posted in the other thread as well:

I just got back from dropping off my application at the SCC Sheriff's Office.

Some notes:
I got there before 8am (when they open) but the officer there gladly helped me out. He said he already got 5, including mine, this morning before even opening. Also said they got like 30+ yesterday and they just keep coming in.

He made me sign/date the portion right above Section 1, and said they will sign/date their required sections when I come back for the interview.

He said we will most likely just be contacted within the required 90 days but doesn't necessarily mean interview/acceptance.

There is no receipt of acceptance of any kind, and (at least the officer I was dealing with) didn't want to sign anything. He did say all these go straight to the person-in-charges desk/stack though.

Hope that helps anyone out!

[Branden967]

Is this just all hype, or is the SO really going to issue?

[scootle]

Is this just all hype, or is the SO really going to issue?

They will be forced to do whatever the Court tells them to do... but not until that becomes "final." For now, it's just a stack of applications sitting on someone's desk in the SCCSO.

Reaching that finality will take a bit longer.

As it is, the SCCSO is accepting the applications on a first-come-first-served basis if you want to put your name on the waiting list, so to speak, for them to process once Peruta is resolved.

Mind you, it's a bit of a breakthrough that the SCCSO is "accepting" applications at all... in the past, they simply told people to bugger off, more or less.

[jmardock]

I am filling out my application. I do own a handgun, but I do not own the one I would like to carry if I get a permit. What do I put down on section 3 where it asks you to list your firearms you would by carrying? Do I just write a gun I already own?

[phdo]

I am filling out my application. I do own a handgun, but I do not own the one I would like to carry if I get a permit. What do I put down on section 3 where it asks you to list your firearms you would by carrying? Do I just write a gun I already own?

You can leave it blank if you want. It doesn't really matter until you get approved. Then you can choose one to qualify with.

[hks95134]

This is correct, and it has recently changed - previous course of fire that took place at the Sheriff's Range in the hills above the Metcalf range used to be relatively easy:

5 rounds in 30 seconds at 20 yards
5 rounds in 20 seconds at 15 yards - reload repeat
5 rounds in 10 seconds at 7 yards - reload repeat
5 rounds in 5 seconds at 3 yards

Total of 30 rounds fired.

Now it's even easier:

5 rounds in 30 seconds at 15 yards
5 rounds in 15 seconds at 7 yards
5 rounds in 5 seconds at 3 yards

Total of 15 rounds fired.

Target is a standard B27 silhouette and 80% of your rounds must be in the 8 ring.

Sheriff's RO requires you to wear SBA which they provide. They also require you to draw from a holster (no pocket carry, no 'draw clips', etc) and they have a caliber floor of .380 - nothing smaller than that.
AND the Sheriff's RO/RM that inspects the firearms to verify safety, serial #, etc. will disqualify a handgun they feel is unsafe. Example: Glocks with 3.5# triggers, match triggers on 1911s, etc.

Oh and you shoot rain or shine.

Great info, thanks QBG.

SBA means what again?

[Texas Boy]

SBA = soft body armor

will disqualify a handgun they feel is unsafe. Example: Glocks with 3.5# triggers, match triggers on 1911s, etc.

Oh boy, I bet the trigger (stock) on my EMP is close to 3.5#, and that is the gun I want to carry. I guess the "good news" is I will likely have plenty of time to prepare a solution before the range date (hopefully it is not years).

[tsoiky]

I just turn in mine application. There is no address and contact number on the form. How are they going to contact me???


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[riddler408]

I just turn in mine application. There is no address and contact number on the form. How are they going to contact me???


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Unless you provided such info on say a cover sheet, they aren't going to contact you

[Flopper]

I just turn in mine application. There is no address and contact number on the form. How are they going to contact me???


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I did put down my home address as the return address when I sent it via certified mail--anyone think that is good enough?

[scootle]

I did put down my home address as the return address when I sent it via certified mail--anyone think that is good enough?

One can only assume that in an agency that is tasked to solve crimes and enforce the law, they could deduce that maybe the return address on a item mailed directly to them could also be the reply address to the sender...

But maybe that's hoping too much?

*imagines a huge pile of empty envelopes separated from their contents on someone's desk*

[tsoiky]

I did put down my home address as the return address when I sent it via certified mail--anyone think that is good enough?

Damn. Does it means I need to re apply?

I am dreaming that they will run the pistol serial numbers on the application and get my contact infor.


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[s2000news]

So, conflicting information continues...

Do you apply to your city, or to the county? (Any recent change in this answer, LINK if so please)

IE, I live in Mountain View. Apply to Mtn View or to Santa Clara County?

[phdo]

So, conflicting information continues...

Do you apply to your city, or to the county? (Any recent change in this answer, LINK if so please)

IE, I live in Mountain View. Apply to Mtn View or to Santa Clara County?

You have to apply to the county. The police chiefs don't handle the permits.

[scootle]

So, conflicting information continues...

Do you apply to your city, or to the county? (Any recent change in this answer, LINK if so please)

IE, I live in Mountain View. Apply to Mtn View or to Santa Clara County?

In most cases, the City Police Chief does not issue LTC.

A snippet from the law books:

(a)(1)(A) The sheriff of a county, upon proof that the person applying is of good moral character, that good cause exists for the issuance, and that the person applying satisfies any one of the conditions specified in subparagraph (D) and has completed a course of training as described in subparagraph (E), may issue to that person a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in either one of the following formats:

(B) The chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county, upon proof that the person applying is of good moral character, that good cause exists for the issuance, and that the person applying is a resident of that city, and has completed a course of training as described in subparagraph (E), may issue to that person a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in either one of the following formats:

That said, some City PD's have Reserve Officers to whom they do issue LTC, and in that case, they are required by law to also take applications for LTC from their City residents. To not do so is to be guilty of applying unequal criteria to their LTC policy.

From another thread:

Is that an equal protection matter?

You're saying they can't make a "(g) agreement" with the county sheriff's department and then still choose to issue ANY carry licenses.
Essentially, they either have to completely submit to the county or completely take responsibility for the issuance in their jurisdiction.
Right?

Correct. They cannot have a situation where, say, their reserve officers can get city licenses but everyone else go to the sheriff. If any department has reserve officers at all, it's a way of forcing all issuance back to the city.

In your specific case, MVPD does have Reserve Officers, but you need to find out if their off-duty LTC comes from the City or County. http://joinmvpd.com/reserves/

With the former Good Cause requirement, the City PD were covered. However, now with Peruta on the horizon, they'd have to either stop issuing LTC to their own Reserve officers, and defer to the County for issue, or provide City residents with the same right.

I know for a fact that Santa Clara PD issues LTC directly to their own Reserve Officers, so they are the IA for citizens by mandate. However, at this time, the Chief of the SCPD (Sellers) is being mum about Peruta, presumably holding out until the verdict is "final." (Like pretty much the entire SFBA.)