Santa Clara

[Paladin]

For those who are actually willing to do something (i.e., work), to improve CCW issuance in Santa Clara Co, you should read the posting by Michael Schwartz, the head of San Diego Co Gun Owners PAC who got Sheriff Gore (yeah, that Gore of Ruby Ridge fame) to liberalize his issuance.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=22054546#post22054546

If Gore could be persuaded to liberalize issuance, I think Sheriff Smith could be persuaded too.

"Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/

[locomike]

our odds are WAY better with Hirakawa (sp?) he is our best choice by far.

[Paladin]

our odds are WAY better with Hirakawa (sp?) he is our best choice by far.

Based upon what? Where has he said is pro CCW or even that he's less anti CCW than Smith?

He flipped his party registration from Repub to Dem to attack Smith from the Left. Parties and their platforms "mean things."

His attacking Smith from the Left means that she can't go there to get more votes, she has to round up and energize her base, incl the Right (what is left of it in SC Co). Just going to "yellow" and issuing more CCWs will do that. Better that some can get CCWs vs virtually none.

If Gore's mind could be (and was) changed, Smith's could too. (Hirokawa's too, but he's less likely IMO given his move to the Left.)

[nedro]

You might want to look at LAPD's CCW GC policy:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1423638

and SDSO's CCW GC policy:

https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

and my guess is that Santa Clara SO's policy will be somewhere between both of those. Be sure to provide "proof"/evidence to support whatever reasons you use to claim you're at higher risk of being attacked than the average law-abiding resident of Santa Clara Co.

Also be sure to let us know how it goes, what their attitudes were to you applying, were they encouraging and helpful, or discouraging and unhelpful, etc.

After the process is finished, let us know if you got denied or issued and either way, what your GC statement was like, but not with so much detail as to ID you. Example: you're a property manager who often collects cash rents in bad parts of town and has to deposit them weekly vs. you're a property manager with ACME Real Estate who makes large cash deposits at Paragon Bank at 25th Ave & Vine St Thursdays around 10 am....

Thank you Paladin, I just saw this post.
I will report back if anything comes of it.

[ColdDeadHands1]

Hirokawa cannot be any worse than "zero regular people issue for 20 years" Smith. I'll vote for him just because he isn't her.

[Paladin]

Hirokawa cannot be any worse than "zero regular people issue for 20 years" Smith. I'll vote for him just because he isn't her.

Like it or not, for better or worse, challengers very rarely beat incumbent sheriffs in CA elections. Smith will most likely win reelection. But since that is not guaranteed, I suggest using this opening to your advantage.

Rather than sitting back and squandering the opportunity, I suggest you SC Co folk organize and do what San Diego Co Gun Owners PAC did. That, IMO, is your best chance and much better than blindly voting "anyone but Smith" without trying anything else.

ETA: Plus, as I replied to you before above:

The guy who's attacking Smith as a Trump conservative will issue more CCWs than Smith??? Color me skeptical.

If that's not true, you just got a new, younger anti as sheriff who will be there longer, until he decides to retire.

What I do know is that Smith (b. 1952) is a lot older than Hirokawa, so she'll probably be replaced/retire sooner than Hirokawa, giving you a earlier opening for electing a real pro CCW sheriff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Smith

[nedro]

This is a good article about all of the candidates. Unfortunately, none of them seem to be for Americans.

https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2018/05/18/several-sheriff-candidates-pledge-change-of-culture

[Paladin]

This is a good article about all of the candidates. Unfortunately, none of them seem to be for Americans.
https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/...nge-of-culture

Just skimming over that I did not see "CCW" or "concealed carry" mentioned.

If you guys want to get an idea of whether Smith will lose or not, search online for the percent of all votes cast for all other candidates and add them to Hirokawa's and see if that percent is greater or less than the percent Smith won in the June primary.

FWIW, of all "lower 5"/"vital 5" SFBA counties (SF, SM, SC, AL and CoCoCo), SC is the ONLY one with a significant Repub presence. That's why I keep encouraging you folks to organize and act (while you still can). You're our only hope for a non-judicial improvement in CCW issuance in the lower 5 SFBA.

[phdo]

[Paladin]

Have you guys even contacted the SO and told them you want Sheriff Smith to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?

If you have any questions, please email CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org

From:

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

Have you even contacted Sheriff Smith's campaign to tell them you want her to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?
Here's her campaign's FB page: https://www.facebook.com/lauriesmithreelection/

"Faint heart never won fair lady." "Fortune favors the bold." "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

Whiners are bad enough, but passive men -- men who whine and do nothing -- are pathetic.

ETA: For being the most populous county in NorCal/SFBA, and the most conservative (i.e., smallest Dem majority) SFBA county, there are depressingly few regular posters in Santa Clara/SJ forums....

[Paladin]

I’m willing to help out with whatever I can. I just can’t do any planning or organizing. Let me know if you guys need anything.

Don't include me in "you guys": I don't even live in Santa Clara Co!

EVERYONE wants a CCW, but no one wants to do the work to make it possible. Again, see what Michael Schwartz had to do over 2 1/2 years to liberate San Diego county:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1473169

Of the 5 lower SFBA counties (SF, SM, SC, Ala and CoCoCo), you've got the best chance for positive change. Don't waste this opportunity.

[Paladin]

GS2AC had a meeting last night, Aug 30th. Anyone go to it?

If so, how was it? Can you give us an overview of what went on?

What are they doing to increase the # of CCWs issued by either the SO or their various cities' PDs?

https://gs2ac.com/blogs/

[Paladin]

And this will never happen! Santa Clara County is probably the third most liberal county in the State.

Actually, it is in a 3-way tie with Napa and Yolo counties as the most conservative in the SFBA! Just go to the Wiki page for each of the 9 SFBA counties and go to the voter registration information. They all have ~23% more Dems than Repubs (Yeah, "conservative" is a relative term in the SFBA.... SF has 47% more Dems than Repubs )

[Paladin]

Santa Clara City or County?

I know a while back, it was pointed out Santa Clara City PD issued permits to their own reserve officers, making them the issuing Agency/Authority for SC City residents... but I've never been bothered to pursue if Chief Sellers supports citizen CCW or not (likely not). On a bright note, however... Sellers is up for reelection, so we could ask him about that...

Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I should ask sooner than later. I noticed he (ordered) changed the SCPD Facebook page to become "Santa Clara Police Department, Chief Michael J. Sellers" recently. Clearly a campaign move for public name-recognition.

I just tried looking around and found nothing re. CCWs on the City of Santa Clara's Police Dept website.

Seller's is still their CoP.

http://santaclaraca.gov/government/departments/police-department

[Paladin]

You won't get denied. They will simply throw your application in the trash. I have applied three times in the past 5 years and have never received any type of response whatsoever.

What happened to the 3 checks you submitted with your 3 apps? Were they deposited/cashed?