Santa Clara

[scootle]

Follow the monster thread and it becomes clear that the next briefings are due on 12/24/2014... but the 9CA can take a while afterwards to disposition the pending motions. The big one will be if the sua sponte call for an en banc rehearing of the entire case is approved... if so, we are likely talking years before anything happens.

I found this to be a good summary/analysis of what is happening most recently, written pretty plain English: http://www.law.com/sites/jamesching/...20141105215543

Given the SCCSO is not going to do anything in our favor until Peruta is dispositioned and the law is on the books by mandate, I'd just forget about that SCC application for the forseeable future. No joke, it's probably easier to move from SCC to another CCW-friendly county in the meantime and establish residency, given the timelines.

[mzagg]

Given the SCCSO is not going to do anything in our favor until Peruta is dispositioned and the law is on the books by mandate, I'd just forget about that SCC application for the forseeable future. No joke, it's probably easier to move from SCC to another CCW-friendly county in the meantime and establish residency, given the timelines.

Thanks for the link. Yes, that's the same conclusion I came to.

[crazyScott90]

Just a friendly reminder to all that the next round of briefings in Peruta are due tomorrow. Hopefully we will get to see them right away.

As far as further action; I wouldn't hold my breath for any news from 9CA till the end of winter/start of spring. They will take their time as they always do.

[Venomns]

Any update on this?

[tabrisnet]

afaiui, there is no writ of mandamus yet. And various parties have so far made that difficult in the short term.

[Paladin]

Any update on this?

Nothing is likely to change until Peruta changes.

Easiest way to follow Peruta is by checking this thread as often as you want/need to:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=893452

[2euro]

Reviving...

Any new news? I haven't heard anything whether they have enforced it?

[kcbrown]

Reviving...

Any new news? I haven't heard anything whether they have enforced it?

Enforced Peruta? In the anti-rights stronghold that is Santa Clara County? Don't be silly.

[crazyScott90]

Wow, funny you should be asking for an update. Your post in this thread prompted me to go check the CCW section of the Sheriffs Website.

As luck would have it, there IS a bit of an update.

There is now a notation at the top of the page suggesting an edit was made on 3/18/15. The only change to the text that I can find is two extra lines near the bottom:

Currently, we are accepting and processing applications. However, due to a large number of applications we have received, there is a tremendous backlog. Please be patient as we work our way through the backlog.

So it sounds like they are back to processing applications? AFAIK, they weren't processing them before, everyone was applying and never hearing back. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything as they can technically just deny every single one of them. I guess the practical upshot of this is that we may actually start to get people checking in saying they were denied and that their GC was this or that, etc.


The tiniest little step in the right direction. Hell, if they are actually processing applications now I might even try my luck.

[Arrieta578]

I wonder if "they" know something about Peruta that "we" don't know yet?

[crazyScott90]

I wonder if "they" know something about Peruta that "we" don't know yet?

Oh good point. Maybe the county attorneys finally got around to fully reviewing the case and they saw the wtiting on the wall! (Well, I can hope, at least)

[crazyScott90]

No updates other than this from 3/1,

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=10

That is an old update from March 2014. There has been much more movement on peruta since then. See here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=32

[Beatone]

That is an old update from March 2014. There has been much more movement on peruta since then. See here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=32

I stand corrected. Thanks for current info. I guess the other thread id dead.

[Paladin]

Wow, funny you should be asking for an update. Your post in this thread prompted me to go check the CCW section of the Sheriffs Website.

As luck would have it, there IS a bit of an update.

There is now a notation at the top of the page suggesting an edit was made on 3/18/15. The only change to the text that I can find is two extra lines near the bottom:



So it sounds like they are back to processing applications? AFAIK, they weren't processing them before, everyone was applying and never hearing back. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything as they can technically just deny every single one of them. I guess the practical upshot of this is that we may actually start to get people checking in saying they were denied and that their GC was this or that, etc.


The tiniest little step in the right direction. Hell, if they are actually processing applications now I might even try my luck.

I'm not sure how to interpret that part you quoted since the end of the paragraph right before it is as I've included below (emphasis added):

Thus, the recent decision has not really changed anything until the 9th remands the matter to the District Court to issue the mandate confirming the Peruta decision until then everything will remain status quo and the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office (SCCSO) will continue to collect applications until the law is completely settled. There are also two other cases addressing the same issue that the 9th Circuit may consider on appeal. As you can see this issue is in flux and until the law is settled the SCCSO will be accept your application. Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

Currently, we are accepting and processing applications. However, due to a large number of applications we have received, there is a tremendous backlog. Please be patient as we work our way through the backlog.

My GUESS is they're still doing what I posted in the OP: they give you the option of either submitting an app to be processed right now under their pre-Peruta GC standard (i.e., highly restrictive), or to submit an app to be held for finalization of Peruta and Richards and Baker and processed after the mandate issues on all 3 of those cases.

[crazyScott90]

My GUESS is they're still doing what I posted in the OP: they give you the option of either submitting an app to be processed right now under their pre-Peruta GC standard (i.e., highly restrictive), or to submit an app to be held for finalization of Peruta and Richards and Baker and processed after the mandate issues on all 3 of those cases.

Well like I said in the post you quoted, we still aren't guaranteed to be issued.

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but, once a mandate is issued in Peruta, wouldn't they have to start playing ball at that point? I don't see how they could possibly justify waiting for a mandate in Richards and Baker since presumably they will follow whatever precedent is established in Peruta.