Santa Clara

[Impatient Protector]

From what I have seen the emails for the psych test usually go out on Wednesdays. Hopefully some of us get such an email tomorrow.

Current Status:
Application Date: 4/4/2023
Interview Date: 4/12/2023
Date of Email to schedule Psyche Test:
Psyche Test Date:
Psyche Interview Date:
LiveScan Date:
LiveScan Response Date:
Training Class Date:
Instructor / School:

[yhlin84]

hallelujah... finally got my approval to get LiveScan... 3 weeks after the Live Psych:

Application Date: 02/16/23
Interview Date: 04/04/23
Date of Email to schedule Psyche Test: 04/19/23
Psyche Test Date: 04/28/23
Psyche Approval for Interview Scheduling: 05/01/23
Psyche Interview Date: 05/07/23
Psych Approval Date: 05/30/23
LiveScan Date:
LiveScan Response Date:
Training Class Date:
Application approval:

Did they call or email you to move ahead?

[haw1144]

Did they call or email you to move ahead?

They emailed me and texted me. The last text I got from them was the initial Permitium when I first placed my "Order"

The email is from "auto" which is easily missed and is titled "SCSO - CCW Next Steps"

[sj051]

For those who had experience LiveScan, how long does it take SCSO to receive/process it? I did mine on 5/16, which is on the same day I took the psyche eval written test. Status shows that DOJ/FBI/Firearms completed on 5/18. However, I got an email from Permitium yesterday asking me to proceed with LiveScan. That means SCSO still didn't received the result. I wonder if something went wrong with the LiveScan, or maybe they rejected that since I completed the steps out of order?

[mrcrowley11]

I went to apply with Gilroy back in February after being told that they were actively processing applications. In March, I finally got a hold of the Sgt that runs the process who told me that they were updating their process and would let me know when they get it set up. I asked for an idea of how long it would take and he wouldn?t commit to any timeframe.


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For any who care, I just received a reply from Gilroy PD regarding their updated process. They are requiring 3 letters of reference, I?d have to provide my own evidence of ownership for the pistols going on the permit and they are now requiring a psych component (supposedly new for them).

Hello,

Thank you for your patience while we revised our Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW) process. I?ve included the required documents needed to apply for a CCW.

Please be aware that we have an unprecedented number of pending CCW applications and very limited staff available to process them. With that said, process times may take longer than specified in Gilroy Police Department Policy 218. Please also be aware that California is a ?may issue? state, which means the issuing agency has the discretion to decide whether or not to issue a CCW permit to an applicant.

The CCW process consists of 2 phases as described below:

PHASE 1:

Review a copy of Gilroy Police Department Policy 218.
Submit DOJ CCW application BOF 4012.
Note: Although the instructions say to wait, go ahead and complete Section 7 and we will review it together.
Submit signed Informed Consent Release Waiver.
A color copy of current Driver?s License.
Proof of residency.
3 character reference letters will be required from applicant.
A Dealer?s Record of Sale (DROS) / proof of ownership for each firearm to be listed on the permit.
An initial City of Gilroy permit fee of $20.00, made payable by check to the City of Gilroy, will be required from applicant.
A records check will be conducted by GPD.
When you have completed the above, please email the information to both john.ballard@cityofgilroy.org and lamonte.toney@cityofgilroy.org . The preferred format is .pdf. You may also deliver the packet in person. If you deliver in person, ensure the envelope is addressed to Sgt. John Ballard and Sgt. Lamonte Toney. Please ensure you?ve made a copy for yourself (records will not make copies).

Once your packet is reviewed and approved, you will be contacted for an interview.
You will be notified when to advance to phase 2.

PHASE 2:

Live Scan fingerprinting (at applicant?s expense, approximately $120).
DOJ Criminal History returned/reviewed.
CCW Psychological Interview (at applicant?s expense, not to exceed $150).
Proof of safety training/ qualification.
If applying for a NEW Concealed Carry Weapon license, a minimum 8-hour firearms training course must be completed. Proof firearms safety inspection.
Interview with Chief.
CCW License Issued/ Denied.
All Fees paid (final City of Gilroy fee, $80.00)

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

John





John Ballard

Administrative Sergeant
Gilroy Police Department
7301 Hanna St.
Gilroy, CA 95020
408-846-0349



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[bo0st]

For any who care, I just received a reply from Gilroy PD regarding their updated process. They are requiring 3 letters of reference, I?d have to provide my own evidence of ownership for the pistols going on the permit and they are now requiring a psych component (supposedly new for them).

Hello,

Thank you for your patience while we revised our Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW) process. I?ve included the required documents needed to apply for a CCW.

Please be aware that we have an unprecedented number of pending CCW applications and very limited staff available to process them. With that said, process times may take longer than specified in Gilroy Police Department Policy 218. Please also be aware that California is a ?may issue? state, which means the issuing agency has the discretion to decide whether or not to issue a CCW permit to an applicant.

The CCW process consists of 2 phases as described below:

PHASE 1:

Review a copy of Gilroy Police Department Policy 218.
Submit DOJ CCW application BOF 4012.
Note: Although the instructions say to wait, go ahead and complete Section 7 and we will review it together.
Submit signed Informed Consent Release Waiver.
A color copy of current Driver?s License.
Proof of residency.
3 character reference letters will be required from applicant.
A Dealer?s Record of Sale (DROS) / proof of ownership for each firearm to be listed on the permit.
An initial City of Gilroy permit fee of $20.00, made payable by check to the City of Gilroy, will be required from applicant.
A records check will be conducted by GPD.
When you have completed the above, please email the information to both john.ballard@cityofgilroy.org and lamonte.toney@cityofgilroy.org . The preferred format is .pdf. You may also deliver the packet in person. If you deliver in person, ensure the envelope is addressed to Sgt. John Ballard and Sgt. Lamonte Toney. Please ensure you?ve made a copy for yourself (records will not make copies).

Once your packet is reviewed and approved, you will be contacted for an interview.
You will be notified when to advance to phase 2.

PHASE 2:

Live Scan fingerprinting (at applicant?s expense, approximately $120).
DOJ Criminal History returned/reviewed.
CCW Psychological Interview (at applicant?s expense, not to exceed $150).
Proof of safety training/ qualification.
If applying for a NEW Concealed Carry Weapon license, a minimum 8-hour firearms training course must be completed. Proof firearms safety inspection.
Interview with Chief.
CCW License Issued/ Denied.
All Fees paid (final City of Gilroy fee, $80.00)

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

John





John Ballard

Administrative Sergeant
Gilroy Police Department
7301 Hanna St.
Gilroy, CA 95020
408-846-0349



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Wow at least those fees are more reasonable.

[mrcrowley11]

Wow at least those fees are more reasonable.

True. Although having to track down three letters of recommendation and whatever paperwork qualifies as proof of ownership isn?t without a time cost.


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[yhlin84]

This is now turning out to be a grand ****show

Note that I have submitted post psyche interview questionairre as instructed at least 4 times now.

From SCC (after chasing them for 2 weeks regarding moving on to livescan).
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Good afternoon (redacted),

We have not received a return from LEPS regarding your Psychological. Have you completed all forms required to release the document?
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After spending time to follow up with PSSC (Public Safety Psychological Services) my testing clinic (referred from LEPS i guess?)
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Greetings,

We have not received your form at this time. Can you please send a snip of the link that you are using to complete this?

Krista
WeProctor
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After sending the post interview link, screenshots of my appointment and follow up appointment.

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Greetings,

At this time, I am unable to locate your pages, however I will review this with our records team at open of business tomorrow morning and get back to you promptly.

Thank you.
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How do they lose my records? Can I even trust their records if they can't even submit it?

[ericw111]

how long does it take SCSO to receive/process it?

My anecdote: My livescan was completed on 5/11 so I uploaded the screenshot (with the ATI number) the same day. On 5/19 I got a text and an email for training. I would assume the current timeline would be slower.

[NorCalBusa]

True. Although having to track down three letters of recommendation and whatever paperwork qualifies as proof of ownership isn?t without a time cost.
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Offer to write them for the three people, they can be identical with three different signatures- keep it to less than one page. No mention of CCW or firearms belong in the letters nor do the three people need to know that's what it is for. Feed the bear, it should accolade judgement, trust, responsibility.

[mrcrowley11]

Offer to write them for the three people, they can be identical with three different signatures- keep it to less than one page. No mention of CCW or firearms belong in the letters nor do the three people need to know that's what it is for. Feed the bear, it should accolade judgement, trust, responsibility.

Totally agree. I?m still on the fence applying with them since I am ?further? along with the SCC sheriff process. Still waiting for the schedule your psych email like the others that interviewed on 4/12.


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[Impatient Protector]

For any who care, I just received a reply from Gilroy PD regarding their updated process. They are requiring 3 letters of reference

Letters of Reference. Thats very weird. So what are they supposed to say? They are requiring you to disclose to someone that you have a gun and want a CCW. And to have someone support your choice to exercise your 2A rights.

That sounds unconstitutional in so many ways.

[NorCalBusa]

Letters of Reference. Thats very weird. So what are they supposed to say? They are requiring you to disclose to someone that you have a gun and want a CCW. And to have someone support your choice to exercise your 2A rights.

That sounds unconstitutional in so many ways.

Your presupposition isn't founded. I haven't read anywhere that the reason need be disclosed as part of/to those writing the reference letter. Do you know it to be the case?

[Impatient Protector]

Your presupposition isn't founded. I haven't read anywhere that the reason need be disclosed as part of/to those writing the reference letter. Do you know it to be the case?

I suppose that it was somewhat of a question and a jump to conclusions all in one. So no, I do know specifically know their requirements for the letters of recommendation. However, a google search reveals stuff like this that specifies inclusion of information indicating that the request is for a CCW license.

https://legalbeagle.com/7536601-gun-license-philadelphia.html

Maybe its just me but this rubs me the wrong way. I suspect it requires forced disclosure of CCW, firearms ownership, and intent to carry. This information shouldn't be required to be broadcast. Essentially, this appears to be compelled speech. Maybe I am wrong though, could be something else. But does the sheriffs office verify? Are they going to call the recommenders and confirmed it is their recommendation?

[jhZ]

Does anyone know if 32 ACP is allowed? If anyone by chance has gone through qualification with a Seecamp, can you share what training provider have you chosen and what holster was approved for it? I can't really find a fitted holster for the Seecamp, and most training providers don't allow pocket holsters either.