San Bernardino

[winnre]

its illegal for them to ask about arrests that did not lead to conviction.......

They;re going to know when they run your numbers anyway. Chalk this one up to honesty. Will you tell them what they already know?

[PsychGuy274]

I need someone who's recently gone through the San Bernardino County CCW application process to PM me. I have a few questions.

I prefer someone who's gone through it within the last year or so, but the more recent the better. Whether or not your received a CCW is irrelevant. You will be kept 100% anonymous and I will divulge NO personal information.

All I need is for you to PM me with your name, phone number and a good time to contact you.

Thanks.

Just wanted to let everyone know that PsychGuy is working with CGF on this FYI.

-Brandon

[Donny1]

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Interested in applying but the 7 references and one year residency are putting me off. Any updates appreciated.

[G1500]

Can we use other CGN members in SBC who have CCWs as our 7 references?

[PsychGuy274]

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Interested in applying but the 7 references and one year residency are putting me off. Any updates appreciated.

Don't worry about it. I'm working on it right now, but I need info from people who already have applied. If you know of any, please PM me their contact info if they're OK with that.

[The Shadow]

its illegal for them to ask about arrests that did not lead to conviction.......

I think it should go deeper than that. Why should a person be denied if they're not a prohibited person ? Would a conviction for carrying concealed without a permission slip be grounds for denial ? It's no worse than driving without a drivers license, and I don't think people would be denied for that ?

[PsychGuy274]

I think it should go deeper than that. Why should a person be denied if they're not a prohibited person ? Would a conviction for carrying concealed without a permission slip be grounds for denial ? It's no worse than driving without a drivers license, and I don't think people would be denied for that ?

That's what we have to deal with living in a May (read:won't) Issue state.

[Cokebottle]

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Interested in applying but the 7 references and one year residency are putting me off. Any updates appreciated.

Ditto.
7 references, neighborhood check (they say they are discreet... how discreet is a cop asking questions about you?), and the employer conversation.
While I don't care about my immediate supervisor, if they move up the chain to the Director of Public Works it could be uncomfortable.

[The Shadow]

That's what we have to deal with living in a May (read:won't) Issue state.

That's true, but San Bernardino has this reputation of being shall issue, but they put these barriers in front of people and expect applicants to jump through ridiculous hoops that are in fact illegal.

You can't get a permit unless you live in the county for at least one year.

You have to get three letters of reference from friends.

You have to give four names that they can interview.

I'll just bet that you probably don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting one if you've been convicted of CCWing without a permission slip.

They have only one background investigator that interviews you to see if you measure up, and they still decide if you meet their standards of good cause and good moral character.

And now I understand that they have ONE HUNDRED QUESTIONS that you must answer before they interview you. I can only imagine how a person would be treated if they leave something out as a matter of over sight and not because the applicant was attempting to deceive.

If you can get through the Labyrinth of tasks that you must perform in the SBSO Dog and Pony show, and you agree to the Sheriff's best imitation of the Ten Commandments as he attempts to mimic God, and bestows his mercy and grace on you as he places his seal on you, then great, I'm happy for you. But from where I stand, he's not much better than others.

[PsychGuy274]

That's true, but San Bernardino has this reputation of being shall issue, but they put these barriers in front of people and expect applicants to jump through ridiculous hoops that are in fact illegal.

You can't get a permit unless you live in the county for at least one year.

You have to get three letters of reference from friends.

You have to give four names that they can interview.

I'll just bet that you probably don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting one if you've been convicted of CCWing without a permission slip.

They have only one background investigator that interviews you to see if you measure up, and they still decide if you meet their standards of good cause and good moral character.

And now I understand that they have ONE HUNDRED QUESTIONS that you must answer before they interview you. I can only imagine how a person would be treated if they leave something out as a matter of over sight and not because the applicant was attempting to deceive.

If you can get through the Labyrinth of tasks that you must perform in the SBSO Dog and Pony show, and you agree to the Sheriff's best imitation of the Ten Commandments as he attempts to mimic God, and bestows his mercy and grace on you as he places his seal on you, then great, I'm happy for you. But from where I stand, he's not much better than others.

I agree completely. I'll have updates on SBSD soon.

[CJSdrftFlat]

any updates? I'm going to move down to rialto to go to school at arrowhead regional medical center.

[haole_50]

What are the renewal fees? How often?

[quikduk]

I "think" that the renewal fee is $100 and the process/class is fairly painless AFAIK...but I'll verify and reply when I know more.

EDIT: (Here goes nothin')

1. You will receive a letter before your renewal date BUT you can't submit the required "questionnaire/application" until 60 days prior to your renewal date.

2. I "think" that the fees are in three (3) checks/MOs etc and the amounts are $52/$24/$25 but what they are for is unknown (at least to me at this time).

3. I "think" it would be a good idea to bring a copy of your initial "approved" application to help you remember dates etc. in case the short application asks. (I can't remember what I did yesterday)

4. I "think" that the "personal protection" is still a valid SBDo "good cause" statement. YMMVOC

[Knauga]

2. I "think" that the fees are in three (3) checks/MOs etc and the amounts are $52/$24/$25 but what they are for is unknown (at least to me at this time).

The cost of renewal is $52.00 made out to Department of Justice, $24.00 made to SBSD for processing and $25.00 for the Safety Class, all in money orders.

Standard CCW renews every two years.

[Donny1]

I was just looking at the SB County Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms page and it looks to me like it changed because I no longer see the requirement for the three CCW references. I see the requirement for the four personal references is still there. Did something change or am I missing it.

http://calgunsfoundation.org/downloads/documents/SanBernardino.pdf

Also, if the standard DOJ application is what they are supposed to use why is their application so involved. Work history, residence history, traffic tickets, etc.