San Bernardino

[71MUSTY]

I had my class at Apple Valley, I was quite a while ago but should be similar.

Show up in morning for class bring sack lunch (leave weapons in car till told to get them) eat lunch during class. Went outside to range and did qualifying. Easy peasy. I really liked the Captain who teaches the class at Apple Valley GC.

[Cokebottle]

Awesome. Is leaving the guns cabled locked in the factory box acceptable or do I need to purchase a lockable box?

The cable lock that came with your gun served it's sole legal purpose the moment you walked out of the gun store with it.
Give it to a biker... they make nice helmet locks that won't scratch paint or chrome.

IF you can wrap the cable around the handle of the factory box in a way that the case can not be opened far enough to access the gun, you should be okay, but honestly, I wouldn't do it.

Though the truck of your car satisfies requirements, personally I use a locked briefcase/pistol case or backpack even when going to an outdoor range and parking near the line.

$20 backpack, $5 TSA lock, and I think BassPro still has some $5 gun rugs left over from the Memorial Day sale.
That'll protect the gun, and be convenient to carry the gun, ammo, eyes, and ears to the line.

[JDFRotten]

I just got a call on my application. I passed the background check.

April 3 2015 Interview
June 5 2015 Passed background

[Mithrandir13]

I haven't been able to find out if there is a limit to how many guns (Listed on CCW) may be carried at any one time.... (I think all 3 can be carried simultaneously... but I am not sure)

Anyone know?

tnx

[voodoomedman]

I haven't been able to find out if there is a limit to how many guns (Listed on CCW) may be carried at any one time.... (I think all 3 can be carried simultaneously... but I am not sure)

Anyone know?

tnx

They tell you one. But they also say a bunch of stuff in class that isn't necessarily a legal restriction but probably more misinformation or just CYA FUD. I don't believe there is anything in the penal code restricting how many you carry as long as they are listed.

With that said why? I mean if I was a cop is want a backup. As a civilian ccw holder my gun is my backup. My primary is my feet.

It's a pain enough carrying one gun. But I also practice malfunctions and reloads like crazy so I can fix faster than I can pull a BUG out of my boot.


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[WASR10]

At my last renewal class I asked how many can be carried, the instructor said a person can carry all three if they wanted.

There is definitely some misinformation spread in the classes, so I would double check everything.

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[Mithrandir13]

They tell you one. But they also say a bunch of stuff in class that isn't necessarily a legal restriction but probably more misinformation or just CYA FUD. I don't believe there is anything in the penal code restricting how many you carry as long as they are listed.

With that said why? I mean if I was a cop is want a backup. As a civilian ccw holder my gun is my backup. My primary is my feet.

It's a pain enough carrying one gun. But I also practice malfunctions and reloads like crazy so I can fix faster than I can pull a BUG out of my boot.


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Indeed...carrying one is a PITA... more my curiosity...

just for fun... go find James Yeagers EDC video on youtube!!

tnx
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[Cokebottle]

With that said why? I mean if I was a cop is want a backup. As a civilian ccw holder my gun is my backup. My primary is my feet.

Example:
Wife purse-carries.
List her gun on your permit and when she uses the restroom at Walmart, you can stand with the cart and her purse without being in violation.

I confirmed that this is permissible... but Sarah said that a marriage certificate is needed to verify the relationship.

And for this reason, I really wish that we could list more than 3.
Other than the above, I have no need for her 92FS to be on my permit, but I also want to list my 3 most concealable handguns.

[voodoomedman]

Example:
Wife purse-carries.
List her gun on your permit and when she uses the restroom at Walmart, you can stand with the cart and her purse without being in violation.

I confirmed that this is permissible... but Sarah said that a marriage certificate is needed to verify the relationship.

And for this reason, I really wish that we could list more than 3.
Other than the above, I have no need for her 92FS to be on my permit, but I also want to list my 3 most concealable handguns.

True. Got me there. I was just thinking people that want to holster up multiple guns.

I've thought of this and similar scenarios.


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[johndoe2150]

Sitting in the class right now during a break. I haven't heard anything in the Apple Valley class where I can see any problem with what I have been told

[Cokebottle]

Sitting in the class right now during a break. I haven't heard anything in the Apple Valley class where I can see any problem with what I have been told

How was the employer reference handled?
I have some serious concerns with that given some of the procedures (and paranoia) at my employer.

[johndoe2150]

They send a letter to the employer to verify employment, and to ask if there is any reason the employer would see you not being a good person to carry a gun from my understanding.

[WASR10]

I work at a college, which is pretty much where anti-gun sentiment is cultivated, and I had no problem when SBSD called. I am sure it will be fine.

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[Cokebottle]

I work at a college, which is pretty much where anti-gun sentiment is cultivated, and I had no problem when SBSD called. I am sure it will be fine.

I'm just concerned about being "that guy" and future "promotability" issues.
I don't want the next (and last) 15 years of my career to be stalled in the position that I am in right now.

Some of it depends on whether the letter is delivered to engineering or directly to HR. If it goes to engineering, it will be opened before being sent to HR. That will put the rumor mill in high gear.
I'll include a separate contact sheet listing the HR address and persons when I take the rest of the paperwork to the interview.
A couple of years ago, my boss asked one of the guys in HR who has always been very friendly if CCW was permitted.
The answer was a quick and without thought "No, it's just like a pot card, even though it's legal, you can't do it here"

We thought that was the end of it, but a week later we got wind that it had gone up the ladder to the directors and really started a crap-storm.

I'm thinking that the best approach may be to inform MY director before he hears about it from another vertical.

Ultimately, I would feel much better if the letter, rather than flat out stating CCW, were worded along the lines of "Non-criminal background investigation for a county license"

[WASR10]

I really can't say what the letter of inquiry says. I know for a fact that when they interview tje neighbors thry use the phrase, 'license for the state. ' But I don't know what they ask employers. I don't know you're employer's processes, but at my work the letter went to 'Office of Human Resources' and was directed to the person who is incharge of HR issues specifically to my campus. As far as I know, no one else ever saw it. HR is pretty used to employment verifications for employees, so my guess is it was treated as such; just another verification. I know my director or my vice-president never were contacted.

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