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[LL949]

Does anyone know if you have to scan documents into website when going through process like stated on the sheriffs website?
Thanks

[tuna quesadilla]

An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.

I mean, it does make sense that the agency would want to follow the laws of the state as closely as possible. We can only hope that this lawsuit eventually makes it to the Supreme Court and gets overturned statewide (or even nationwide).

[Guninator]

An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.

[Browneye]

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[RoofTopKorean]

Good point. Thanks for your input

[tuna quesadilla]

Apologies in advance if this was discussed elsewhere, but wth the overturning of the limit on standard capacity magazines, are we allowed to carry with standard magazines now?

I would hold off on doing that until we get at least a little bit more clarification/development on this whole situation. Over the next week or two, we're probably going to see a lot more review and interpretation from professional lawyers close to the case. We'll also learn within the next few days whether or not the Attorney General ends up appealing this decision in any way. So this could all change in a moment's notice.

On that note, I also just reviewed my CCW guidelines packet I got from the last time I amended my license with OCSD, and it doesn't say anything about standard-capacity magazines being forbidden. So I wouldn't even bother contacting OCSD with this question--Do you remember the kid in school who would raise his hand and say, "Teacher, you forgot to grade the homework today..."? Don't be that kid. Also remember that there ARE people walking around today with CCW licenses who do own legally-grandfathered standard-capacity magazines from before the year 2000, so there's no reason OCSD should want to prevent those people from carrying their legally-owned equipment in the first place.

[RoofTopKorean]

Apologies in advance if this was discussed elsewhere, but wth the overturning of the limit on standard capacity magazines, are we allowed to carry with standard magazines now?

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[Browneye]

Seems like I've seen something like this from OCSD as well, but couldn't say where.

And along those same lines, once you have your permit, you are required to contact OCSD if you have ANY contact with ANY law enforcement officer or entity, for ANY reason. They keep close track of their permittees.

[ak4seven]

Thank you fellas! Yes, this is the information I’m looking for... really appreciate you guys answering my questions

[Dvrjon]

Two processes with two different products.

The purchase of a firearm relies wholly on your 2A right to keep and bear arms. Your data from your DL runs against the system looking for prohibitions of ownership. If there are none, then the sale is approved.

For a CCW, the background information is enhanced with a fingerprint requirement. Then, the IA applies their interpretation of the statutory requirement of Good Moral Character. Some IAs have specific statements of what will result in disapproval of an application. In Sacramento, the Sheriff will not issue to individuals deemed unsuitable by CCW Committee/Sheriff for the following reasons:
Yet, none of those conditions will prohibit you from buying a firearm.

[Browneye]

Yes, pretty much. The whole idea of 2A.
And you need to be able to articulate your good cause, and able to prove you can hit a target at close range.
So while it's more involved than just buying a firearm, if you can pass the background check (reads: you don't have anything illegal in your background) and pass your training and submit an acceptable GCS, you're golden.

OCSD has issued more than ten thousand permits over the past few years. They're pro-issue.

[ak4seven]

To my knowledge and experience, it is more extensive. I have read threads where supposedly expunged records came back to haunt the applicants; some were eventually granted CCW when they got it sorted out, and some were denied.

[pklin1297]

To my knowledge and experience, it is more extensive. I have read threads where supposedly expunged records came back to haunt the applicants; some were eventually granted CCW when they got it sorted out, and some were denied.

[ak4seven]

Not sure what you mean...

If you're asking, if someone is able to purchase a firearm, they'll have no problems being granted a CCW if they apply, then answer is no, because there's a lot more to being qualified for CCW than getting a gun, though getting a gun is an obvious first step.