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  • WingDings
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    Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
    They'll work with you on the good cause statement. If there's a spot where perhaps giving more information might help your case, they'll point it out to you. I can't share details on a public forum that might identify me to anyone in real life, but let me just say... If they accepted my good cause statement, then I don't think anyone has anything to worry about. As long as you came up with someone you can back up with documentation/evidence.

    Are you able to put your pistols back to their stock configuration, or did you make permanent changes to them? You might look into making your guns stock again before you do your training course with them. It's there that your guns will be inspected for modifications. The Sheriffs themselves don't actually inspect your guns during the application/interview.
    That's a relief to hear. Thanks.

    Couple questions if you don't mind...

    1. "As long as you came up with someone you can back up with documentation/evidence."--What did you mean by this? Is there a character reference I needed to submit (but didn't)? (*Or did you mean "something" and not "someone", perhaps?)

    2a. Two of the guns were barely modified (just grip panels). They willing to accept that, you think?

    2b. The other two have upgraded flat trigger systems installed. Can I remove those two at any point prior to the interview?

    Thanks.

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  • Citadelgrad87
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    Originally posted by Guninator
    An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.
    DO NOT ASK FOR ADVICE. Its a super simple thing for OCSD to formulate policy. I didnt have to ask some rando at OnTarget if i can make internal modifications, change my sights, etc.

    That stuff is all set forth, in writing, in the regs and conditions of issuance we get with our permits.

    Again, i own grandfathered mags. They are legal to own. They are legal to use. I certainly didn't raise it, but i did use them to qualify.

    OSCD has a mechanism to implement and disseminate changes to policy.

    It doesnt involve whispering in some OnTarget counter guys ear.

    DO NOT ASK ABOUT THIS. if it is going to happen that we cant carry, then let it happen. Dont force it by asking some midlevel guy to make a yes or no decision.

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  • tuna quesadilla
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    Originally posted by WingDings
    Submitted my application on Sunday.

    Kicking myself. Total rush job and I didn't do my due diligence by reading up on the threads in these forums.

    --My Good Cause Statement...garbage judging by the standards set forth here.
    --My Listed Permit Pistols...3 out of the 4 I listed are probably not even going to pass scrutiny (due to modifications)

    Can I do a "do over"?
    They'll work with you on the good cause statement. If there's a spot where perhaps giving more information might help your case, they'll point it out to you. I can't share details on a public forum that might identify me to anyone in real life, but let me just say... If they accepted my good cause statement, then I don't think anyone has anything to worry about. As long as you came up with something you can back up with documentation/evidence.

    Are you able to put your pistols back to their stock configuration, or did you make permanent changes to them? You might look into making your guns stock again before you do your training course with them. It's there that your guns will be inspected for modifications. The Sheriffs themselves don't actually inspect your guns during the application/interview.
    Last edited by tuna quesadilla; 04-30-2019, 10:37 PM. Reason: fixed typo

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  • WingDings
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    Submitted my application on Sunday.

    Kicking myself. Total rush job and I didn't do my due diligence by reading up on the threads in these forums.

    --My Good Cause Statement...garbage judging by the standards set forth here.
    --My Listed Permit Pistols...3 out of the 4 I listed are probably not even going to pass scrutiny (due to modifications)

    Can I do a "do over"?

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  • ro2171
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    Anyone get livescan results back recently? If so, when did you get prints done? I'm at 3 months now since getting prints submitted and all 3 still "In Progress" on status website. Thank you in advance!

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  • dawgcasa
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    Originally posted by Guninator
    An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.
    I was at my local range and the front desk guy said the same, that OCSD will pull your CCW if you have a LEO encounter and have a 11+ magazine. I too searched the CCW guidelines and could only find this vague comment “possessing any equipment or attachments to a firearm not specifically approved as a part of the license”.

    Now, one of my CCW listed guns is a pre-ban G-17. It was approved with it’s grandfathered magazines, that were legal then, and remain legal for now given the current status of Duncan vs Becerra. Those pre-ban magazines also fit my listed G-26 (I find the 17 round mag makes a very nice backup mag for the G-26 without disturbing the conceal-ability of the G-26). So this seems like a huge grey zone. Technically, my pre-ban G17, with its pre-ban magazines, was approved for my CCW. The magazines are technically legal for me to possess and carry. They also happen to function in another gun listed on my CCW. The OCSD has made no direct policy statement regarding Duncan vs Becerra, and the CCW guidelines are at best vague on the topic. It would seem quite strange to me that the OCSD would have an informal unwritten word of mouth policy, not based upon the actual current status of law, that would put our CCWs in jeopardy in cases were we actually are following the law. But then, this whole CCW structure in CA is designed to have a huge grey zone of LEO discretion, so I’m not surprised.

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  • alphanumericone
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    They did for me almost two years ago, but not for my wife last year.

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  • Trriemferent
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    I waited a little over 2 months when I was in your situation. When I reached out to my interviewer, he said the sergeant accidentally skipped my application and approved the next week. You decide how long you want to wait before asking. Just remember to be polite and respectful.

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  • maggie06
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    Relax. When I renewed my permit the progress never showed movement until I was renewed.

    Sounds like you're on the bottom of a stack of files. Be patient.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

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  • adaza
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    Hey guys, I wanted to get some input to hopefully put my mind at ease. I applied for my permit on 1/28/19, had my interview and on 2/14/19 and was told I just need to get my livescan/training certificate and after they were submitted, my permit would be submitted up the chain for approval. I submitted my final documents on 3/1/19 and got an email directly from the person who interviewed me stating that she would submit my application to the sergeant that day. I noticed a couple weeks later that my Permitium account still showed me in the first stage of application and was waiting for payment (no payment has been made at this time). I gave the department a call and the woman on the phone told me that my application is with a sergeant but the website sometimes won't update status. I feel like I'm just being impatient/paranoid that something went wrong and my app was brushed aside. Am I just crazy? How long do you think I should wait before actually getting concerned about a potential issue?

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  • francisk
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    That's fast!
    thanks

    Originally posted by TDL2024
    Did one about 2 weeks ago. Took 2 days from submitting online to picking up new card.

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  • pklin1297
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    Originally posted by LL949
    As far as your renewal process. When I checked on sheriffs website it says you need to scan documents. Is this true? Or can you type it in?
    Thanks

    They have an upload section where you upload your scanned documents. Only spaces available for typing things in are spaces for the Good Cause Statement, and something else that I can't remember right now. For those ones I just copy and pasted my good cause statement to it, or you can probably say "see uploaded good cause statement". Sheriff will give you the chance to make it right if you didn't do it right most of the time.

    There's no way for you to type in your proof of residency, etc., so you have to scan and upload.

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  • TDL2024
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    Originally posted by francisk
    Hey Everyone!
    Did someone do an amendment lately? Wondering how long it takes?
    Did one about 2 weeks ago. Took 2 days from submitting online to picking up new card.

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