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  • igs
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    Originally posted by igs
    This is why when you walk into any gun shop you see the people working there carrying guns.
    Precisely!

    25605.(b) No permit or license to purchase, own, possess, keep, or carry, either openly or concealed, shall be required of any citizen of the United States or legal resident over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is not within the excepted classes prescribed by Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of Division 9 of this title, or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, to purchase, own, possess, keep, or carry, either openly or concealed, a handgun within the citizen’s or legal resident’s place of residence, place of business, or on private property owned or lawfully possessed by the citizen or legal resident.

    http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ctionNum=25605.

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  • socal m1 shooter
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    Originally posted by xxxnovice
    [...]
    Also, a reason like "Self-defense" would be enough for a "cause"? if not what do you suggest for someone who has not been previously assaulted and unable to present a supporting document like police report and hoping that it would never happen and never have to fire a gun towards a anyone.
    One of the principals at Artemis has a Pre-CCW class that will answer all your questions & concerns, and possibly give you an opportunity to discuss your GC statement with a lawyer who specializes in use-of-force and CA gun law.

    They have a class scheduled 1/17/2020. Another on 2/28/2020. In the past they also ran some at the CRPA office in Fullerton, but I can't find any scheduled right now.

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  • 9Cal_OC
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    Originally posted by xxxnovice
    Anybody applied for CCW recently? what's the timeline look like?
    Also, a reason like "Self-defense" would be enough for a "cause"? if not what do you suggest for someone who has not been previously assaulted and unable to present a supporting document like police report and hoping that it would never happen and never have to fire a gun towards a anyone.

    Thanks in advance.
    Depends, a few months (1-5). Can’t use SD as good cause. See some of the posts above or in this thread for a starting point.

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  • xxxnovice
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    Newbie CCW

    Anybody applied for CCW recently? what's the timeline look like?
    Also, a reason like "Self-defense" would be enough for a "cause"? if not what do you suggest for someone who has not been previously assaulted and unable to present a supporting document like police report and hoping that it would never happen and never have to fire a gun towards a anyone.

    Thanks in advance.

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  • delskidodledo
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    Anybody?


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  • Kenny Arsen
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    Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
    Yes.

    And format may vary. Mine was a page. But added documentation with it so that increased page count.

    You can base it off your job (depends what you do), carrying large amounts of cash, traveling or hiking in remote areas, etc has worked for some.
    Thank you. I was unaware that travel/hiking is grounds for a good cause. I do a lot of off-roading/camping/hiking. Still unsure of how to word this and/or how long to make it.

    Is there a site (or thread) where I could find examples? I know not to plagiarize, just need a better idea of how good cause statements, related to outdoor activities are worded.

    Thanks!

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  • GlockN'Roll
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    Originally posted by Kenny Arsen
    Can anyone please tell me if Orange County is currently requiring a good cause statement? If so, any direct links on format or good cause examples would be greatly appreciated, along with any other information that may help.

    I did attempt at searching through this thread but wasn't very successful in finding a definitive answer.

    TIA
    "Eligibility Requirements
    The licensing authority specified in Penal Code sections 26150 and 26155 (a Sheriff or the Chief or other head of a municipal police department) may issue a license to persons who are of good moral character, who have completed a course of training, and have good cause for issuance of a Carry Concealed Weapon license. All applicants for a Carry Concealed Weapon license will be Live Scanned and state and federal records will be checked to determine if they are eligible to possess firearms."

    "Required Documents:
    Valid California Driver’s License or ID Card - Must have your current address in Orange County.
    Proof of OC Residency – At least two (2) of the following documents showing your current address in Orange County (Utility bill, Lease/Rental Agreement, Telephone Bill, Tax Bill, etc.)
    Detailed Good Cause statement and supporting documentation.
    DD-214/Orders(Military only)
    Certificate of Naturalization, Green Card and/or Passport (If you were born outside the United States)
    CCW Permit (Renewals only)
    Additional documents may be requested at the discretion of the application processor "

    http://www.ocsd.org/about_ocsd/services/ccw
    "It does appear that the OCSD has been a little more focused on quality documents to verify the claims made in the good cause statement,
    but there doesn't seem to be any changes in the types of reasons they will accept to satisfy the requirement and the issuance rate is on par as to what it was previously before Barnes was sworn in.
    For example, the OCSD may ask you for photos or letters to demonstrate that you indeed perform certain job duties if you use that as a claim,
    or evidence that you do frequently participate in recreational activities in remote areas without cell phone service or nearby help.
    Plan on having a document to support every section of your good cause reasons,

    but the OCSD staff provides excellent customer service in helping you understand what types of documents they require of you. Nobody should be discouraged to apply."

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  • 9Cal_OC
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    Originally posted by Kenny Arsen
    Can anyone please tell me if Orange County is currently requiring a good cause statement? If so, any direct links on format or good cause examples would be greatly appreciated, along with any other information that may help.

    I did attempt at searching through this thread but wasn't very successful in finding a definitive answer.

    TIA
    Yes.

    And format may vary. Mine was a page. But added documentation with it so that increased page count.

    You can base it off your job (depends what you do), carrying large amounts of cash, traveling or hiking in remote areas, etc has worked for some.

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  • Kenny Arsen
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    Can anyone please tell me if Orange County is currently requiring a good cause statement? If so, any direct links on format or good cause examples would be greatly appreciated, along with any other information that may help.

    I did attempt at searching through this thread but wasn't very successful in finding a definitive answer.

    TIA

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  • igs
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    Originally posted by Dvrjon
    having a loaded firearm within, or any person in lawful possession of private property from having a loaded firearm on that propertyPEN 26010.

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  • Dvrjon
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    Originally posted by igs
    26035 is an exemption to 25850 which about carrying in a public place.
    having a loaded firearm within, or any person in lawful possession of private property from having a loaded firearm on that propertyPEN 26010.
    26010.
    Section 25850 does not apply to the carrying of any handgun by any person as authorized pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of Division 5.

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  • igs
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    Originally posted by Dvrjon
    May I suggest you tell the courts they are wrong? The citations provided explain the difference between "having" a firearm within a business or on a private property with carrying a concealed weapon in a public place. The previous postings also explain this.

    That doesn't exempt the agent from the concealed carry prohibitions. It simply allows the individual to "have" the firearm, nor does it waive the Court's findings of private property as a "public place" prohibition.Again, "having" on private property, but this time limited to ONLY the individual in lawful possession of the property...no agents or representatives. But, also no exception the private property as a "public places" prohibition.

    Happy New Year.
    26035 is an exemption to 25850 which about carrying in a public place.

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  • 9Cal_OC
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    Originally posted by fifteen
    If I spend ~half my time in OC and half in SF, can i still apply in OC? Does my DMV address have to be the OC one?
    Yes and yes. Base it off of your primary residence or where you get your mail to.

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  • fifteen
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    If I spend ~half my time in OC and half in SF, can i still apply in OC? Does my DMV address have to be the OC one?

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