Contra Costa

[Red9]

Just finished up my training course. Expert firearms training is outstanding. I shot about 450 rounds in two hours training. This class i feel is the best of the best. You will be taught how to handle a firearm. Holster work. And above all how to point shoot, front site shoot and marksman shoot. Roy got my group to shrink considerably. One can learn alot from this guy. He will teach you how to survive hopefully a gunfight.

[WithinReason]

This thread has been kind of quiet. I wonder if people are receiving their CCWs, or if the process is delayed even longer than before. Or, maybe the people receiving their CCWs are not members of Calguns...

[jatreuel]

A buddy just got his this week. Less than a week after his qual shoot. The RSO told him they were qualifying 80 per day, Fridays and Saturdays. The group before his was full as was his

[WithinReason]

That is good news!

[ARFrog]

Do those clearance numbers sound realistic? At 160 per week - 640 per month - it should only take roughly 5 months for the CCCSO to clear the backlog if the number of pending applications is around 2,000.

Has anyone heard any recent information from the CCCSO regarding current pending applications and number of new submitted applications per month?

[sev07]

If your Foxhole is in the city of Concord, check in that thread. I do believe they allow a whole lot more than CoCoCo. Plus, they issue a whole lot faster.

If you live in Brentwood, can you do your work with Concord if that's the case? Same county. I'd prefer to start my process with a competent and fast moving agency. If I recall from a post way way back in the thread, someone was recommending to work with a specific city instead of another poster's residence city (same county obviously), as their process was moving much faster than the super slow city they lived in.

[XDJYo]

If you live in Brentwood, can you do your work with Concord if that's the case? Same county. I'd prefer to start my process with a competent and fast moving agency. If I recall from a post way way back in the thread, someone was recommending to work with a specific city instead of another poster's residence city (same county obviously), as their process was moving much faster than the super slow city they lived in.

IMHO, best to ask Concord PD. My best guess is that I doubt it, but you never know until you ask.

[rrr70]

If you live in Brentwood, can you do your work with Concord if that's the case? Same county. I'd prefer to start my process with a competent and fast moving agency. If I recall from a post way way back in the thread, someone was recommending to work with a specific city instead of another poster's residence city (same county obviously), as their process was moving much faster than the super slow city they lived in.

You apply with PD of your city of residency. Or with the sheriff office.

[Psychbiker]

Regarding scoring on the B-27. It says

B-27 type target; shots which count towards score must land within outer ring. Score of 126 is passing.

How does that work? Anything out the 7 I lose points? Is it the same points for hitting within the 7 vs within the 9 ring?

[elm3c]

Regarding scoring on the B-27. It says

B-27 type target; shots which count towards score must land within outer ring. Score of 126 is passing.

How does that work? Anything out the 7 I lose points? Is it the same points for hitting within the 7 vs within the 9 ring?

6 shots at each distance, so total of 6x3=18. Max points is 18*10=180 (all shots in the X or ring immediately around the X). Assuming you hit each shot in the 7 ring, 18*7=126 (minimum score to pass). Any shot that hits outside counts as zero.

[canadagoose]

6 shots at each distance, so total of 6x3=18. Max points is 18*10=180 (all shots in the X or ring immediately around the X). Assuming you hit each shot in the 7 ring, 18*7=126 (minimum score to pass). Any shot that hits outside counts as zero.

When I shot, outside of the 7 counted as -10, so a pretty substantial penalty.

[ARFrog]

When I shot, outside of the 7 counted as -10, so a pretty substantial penalty.

outside the 7 ring shots are zero points. Example - if you had 17 shots in the 7 ring (17 shots x 7 points = 119 total score) and one outside (0 points) then 119 + 0 = 119 or a failing score since it is less than the required minimum of 126.

Looked at another way - 180 total points minus 51 points - 17 in the 7 ring would be a minus 51 points: (10-3) = 7 points per shot x 17 shots = 119 or 51 points less than the maximum possible of 170 for those 17 shots. The miss would be -10. So, in this example 180 - 51 - 10 = 119.

Bottom line is that the X or ten ring is your friend to maximize points.

Also note that head shots are not allowed.

[canadagoose]

outside the 7 ring shots are zero points. Example - if you had 17 shots in the 7 ring (17 shots x 7 points = 119 total score) and one outside (0 points) then 119 + 0 = 119 or a failing score since it is less than the required minimum of 126.

Looked at another way - 180 total points minus 51 points - 17 in the 7 ring would be a minus 51 points: (10-3) = 7 points per shot x 17 shots = 119 or 51 points less than the maximum possible of 170 for those 17 shots. The miss would be -10. So, in this example 180 - 51 - 10 = 119.

Bottom line is that the X or ten ring is your friend to maximize points.

Also note that head shots are not allowed.

That sounds like you had different rules than me for qualification. When I qualified at the end of August, he was clear that outside of the 7 ring (or perhaps outside of the shaded area, my memory is a little fuzzy on that) as well as head shots were -10, not just 0.

[XDJYo]

That sounds like you had different rules than me for qualification. When I qualified at the end of August, he was clear that outside of the 7 ring (or perhaps outside of the shaded area, my memory is a little fuzzy on that) as well as head shots were -10, not just 0.

I think you're confusing the 2 different ways of scoring.

The -10 way is to deduct from a perfect score. If the outside the 7 shot was your ONLY shot outside the 10/X ring, the you would only deduct 10 point (-10). 180 perfect score MINUS 10 = 170 total score.

Or, if you score STARTING from ZERO, then ADD all of the points from each shot, any shot outside the 7 amounts to ADDING zero. Same example above, 17 shots x 10 points each = 170 points. Then, ADD the ZERO gives you a total score of 170.

Hope this helps.

ETA: CAPITAL letters for emphasis, not yelling.

[canadagoose]

Okay. It sounded to me that it was "we add up what you got on the target, then subtract 10 for everything that wasn't", but I may have misunderstood his explanation. In the end, I put everything on the target. :-)