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  • TheNinja
    Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 275

    Denied - Failure to disclose prior criminal conduct. I did have some prior item on my record (nothing gun related, no felony or anything like that). And to the best of my knowledge I DID disclose everything. I had nothing to try to hide.

    Somehow I failed to disclose. I emailed Mr. Livingston and politely asked to discuss at some point. I understood my situation but I didn't lie on my application or attempt to deceive anyone.

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    • WithinReason
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 746

      Originally posted by TheNinja
      Denied - Failure to disclose prior criminal conduct. I did have some prior item on my record (nothing gun related, no felony or anything like that). And to the best of my knowledge I DID disclose everything. I had nothing to try to hide.

      Somehow I failed to disclose. I emailed Mr. Livingston and politely asked to discuss at some point. I understood my situation but I didn't lie on my application or attempt to deceive anyone.
      Can you figure out what you failed to disclose and re-apply?
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      • TheNinja
        Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 275

        Originally posted by WithinReason
        Can you figure out what you failed to disclose and re-apply?
        Yes, I feel like I at least deserve an answer on this. I mean they can't just be like "failure to disclose" and then not even give me a chance to talk to them or understand what happened.

        As I mentioned, I emailed them and I'll wait maybe 5 business days. If I don't hear anything I will give them a call and find out what's going on or what, if anything, I can do to potentially re-open my app. This really stinks

        I don't even think the "good moral character" or whatever is constitutional. I thought if you pass backgrounds and no felonies that you have the right to bear arms to protect yourself. But I would like an explanation.

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        • jatreuel
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2022
          • 38

          Originally posted by TheNinja
          Yes, I feel like I at least deserve an answer on this. I mean they can't just be like "failure to disclose" and then not even give me a chance to talk to them or understand what happened.



          As I mentioned, I emailed them and I'll wait maybe 5 business days. If I don't hear anything I will give them a call and find out what's going on or what, if anything, I can do to potentially re-open my app. This really stinks



          I don't even think the "good moral character" or whatever is constitutional. I thought if you pass backgrounds and no felonies that you have the right to bear arms to protect yourself. But I would like an explanation.
          Potential reasons could be any type of domestic call where the sheriff was dispatched. DUl or possession charges are all deal breakers for Livingston

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          • Chrisdken
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2023
            • 2

            Just filed my new CCW application for CoCo via Permitium:
            10/05/23 - application filed

            Wish me luck. I had a speeding ticket from Dec 2021 that I disclosed in the questionnaire. Guidance and good luck wishes appreciated.

            Thanks!

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            • WithinReason
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 746

              Good luck!
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              • ryan5474
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 16

                TheNinja please share your out come samething happened to me denied for a DUI in 05 but I was never charged with it . Clerk told me it wouldn?t be on my record guess that was BS .

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                • bonzai272
                  Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 176

                  I think the key point here is to disclose, disclose, disclose.

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                  • WithinReason
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 746

                    Originally posted by bonzai272
                    I think the key point here is to disclose, disclose, disclose.
                    Agreed.
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                    • kenzyhere
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2020
                      • 5

                      Originally posted by Chrisdken
                      Just filed my new CCW application for CoCo via Permitium:
                      10/05/23 - application filed

                      Wish me luck. I had a speeding ticket from Dec 2021 that I disclosed in the questionnaire. Guidance and good luck wishes appreciated.

                      Thanks!
                      Did you do live scan yet? The timer doesn't start till you do your live scan and application. I found out when doing my CCW. GL!

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                      • Bikerscum
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 62

                        This truly sucks... I saw no point in rushing to do the livescan 1-1/2 years ago when I filed my paper app... figured I'd do it when called. I did it when they sent me the permitium email... now I'm at the bottom of the list.... again.

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                        • WithinReason
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 746

                          Terrible!
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                          • XDJYo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 6145

                            Originally posted by Bikerscum
                            This truly sucks... I saw no point in rushing to do the livescan 1-1/2 years ago when I filed my paper app... figured I'd do it when called. I did it when they sent me the permitium email... now I'm at the bottom of the list.... again.
                            Don't worry, since SB2 will be appealed and tied up in courts forever, you'll have plenty of company. Your app will be at the bottom of the pile like everyone else's CCW permit...underneath a bunch of holsters behind the sock drawer.
                            Les Baer 1911: Premier II w/1.5" Guarantee, Blued, No FCS, Combat Rear, F/O Front, Checkered MSH & SA Professional Double Diamond Grips
                            Springfield Armory XD-45 4" Service Model
                            Springfield Armory XD9 4" Service Model (wifes).
                            M&P 15 (Mine)

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                            • Adam925
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2020
                              • 79

                              Originally posted by XDJYo
                              Don't worry, since SB2 will be appealed and tied up in courts forever, you'll have plenty of company. Your app will be at the bottom of the pile like everyone else's CCW permit...underneath a bunch of holsters behind the sock drawer.
                              Thoughts on how these new twists and tangles might impact renewals?

                              I slipped under the wire having obtained my permit a couple of months ago. Now I?m concerned about the hassles I might face when it?s time to re-up.

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                              • XDJYo
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 6145

                                Originally posted by Adam925
                                Thoughts on how these new twists and tangles might impact renewals?

                                I slipped under the wire having obtained my permit a couple of months ago. Now I?m concerned about the hassles I might face when it?s time to re-up.
                                TBH-I have no idea how your renewal will be impacted.

                                However, the pessimistic side of me predicts that ole Sheriff Livingston will hide behind some provision in SB2 or some other bullsh*t law that will be enacted to restrict CCWs again. I'm waiting to see if the pace of CCWs falls off or continues at the same pace as now (about a year) after 1/1/2024.

                                He is NOT a civilians friend.
                                Les Baer 1911: Premier II w/1.5" Guarantee, Blued, No FCS, Combat Rear, F/O Front, Checkered MSH & SA Professional Double Diamond Grips
                                Springfield Armory XD-45 4" Service Model
                                Springfield Armory XD9 4" Service Model (wifes).
                                M&P 15 (Mine)

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