Alameda

[SilveradoColt21]

You?re no different than anyone else here who is in the process or has already received their permit. What makes you so special?!

Also interesting that FPC interviewed you and didn?t offer you a spot as a plaintiff and CRPA never got back to you while they were more than welcoming to others. Makes me wonder about your credibility.

He's not alone, those of us that are complaining don't consider ourselves "special" or more important than everyone else, we are simply just frustrated as this whole process to get a permit should not take over a year to complete. Yes I understand that it is difficult for a non issuing county to go from 0 to 100 from night to day in terms of issuing permits but when is enough really enough?

[Noobie678]

He's not alone, those of us that are complaining don't consider ourselves "special" or more important than everyone else, we are simply just frustrated as this whole process to get a permit should not take over a year to complete. Yes I understand that it is difficult for a non issuing county to go from 0 to 100 from night to day in terms of issuing permits but when is enough really enough?

Well said. Couldn?t have said it better.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

He's not alone, those of us that are complaining don't consider ourselves "special" or more important than everyone else, we are simply just frustrated as this whole process to get a permit should not take over a year to complete. Yes I understand that it is difficult for a non issuing county to go from 0 to 100 from night to day in terms of issuing permits but when is enough really enough?

I am/was in the same boat as you, but I acted on that frustration, was proactive and reached out and attempted to be part of the change. I didn't just sit back and complain on internet forums and expect others to do it for me or have others pave the way (there were several inhere who call those of us who applied early fools essentially and said they were just going to hang back and wait it out until the process was streamlined and wasn't so convoluted. That's exactly what the county probably wanted you to do and no apply at all out of frustration).


My point is it just seems like there are a lot here that demand action but really didn't step up when it mattered. Now that they're caught up in the backlog and slow process they are demanding action when they should have stepped up sooner.

I'd also be part of any future lawsuits if I was asked to do so. I am a CRPA member and donate regularly.

[Noobie678]

I am/was in the same boat as you, but I acted on that frustration, was proactive and reached out and attempted to be part of the change. I didn't just sit back and complain on internet forums and expect others to do it for me or have others pave the way (there were several inhere who call those of us who applied early fools essentially and said they were just going to hang back and wait it out until the process was streamlined and wasn't so convoluted. That's exactly what the county probably wanted you to do and no apply at all out of frustration).


My point is it just seems like there are a lot here that demand action but really didn't step up when it mattered. Now that they're caught up in the backlog and slow process they are demanding action when they should have stepped up sooner.

I'd also be part of any future lawsuits if I was asked to do so. I am a CRPA member and donate regularly.

You were smart to apply early. I did as well, on the evening of 6/23. I got delayed for a month due to my being away for work and having to push my interview date back. Obviously that?s not ACSOs fault but even having to own a one month delay for my own part, it shouldn?t take 10 plus months to complete this process and while there are clearly some that waited and were not aggressive from the beginning it?s not fair to paint everyone with the same brush and assume that others have not stepped up as well both in terms of applying early and being in communication with ACSO but also with CRPA and other 2A organizations.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

You were smart to apply early. I did as well, on the evening of 6/23. I got delayed for a month due to my being away for work and having to push my interview date back. Obviously that?s not ACSOs fault but even having to own a one month delay for my own part, it shouldn?t take 10 plus months to complete this process and while there are clearly some that waited and were not aggressive from the beginning it?s not fair to paint everyone with the same brush and assume that others have not stepped up as well both in terms of applying early and being in communication with ACSO but also with CRPA and other 2A organizations.

Why are you whining at me? Life's not fair. I never said the process was fair or just. But I made it a point to push back when I need to and stand up for myself instead of just bellyaching on the internet. Believe me, I sent Judeah plenty of emails pushing back on the process and how they are in violation of the law and the PC.

All you can do is just keep pushing back and not give in by giving up and doing exactly what they want you to do, which is get frustrated and stop trying.

If you've already taken your qual and passed and it's only been 2 weeks what are you complaining about? You will most likely be getting a call in a couple weeks to come get your permit.

[Puss]

If you want to get a jump on your CCW application and do the safety course and range test, I received this email from ACSO and am posting it verbatim.
I had the psych exam 3 weeks ago, and asked for this information.
Share and enjoy.
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Subject: safety course AND range qualification

Mulder, Judea R., Sheriff
Dear CCW applicant:

I have received the results of your psychological evaluation and you are moving toward the next step of the CCW application process. Please follow the instructions below:

Attend a basic or advanced handgun safety course. Discuss your options with the instructor of your choice. Notes: The Firearm Safety Certificate that you acquired upon purchase of your weapon DOES NOT MEET the requirement, per 26150. A Hunting Certificate IS NOT proof of attending a safety course.

Fulfill the range qualification/proficiency, advisably with the same instructor you took your safety course from. As referral where to take up these measures, you can contact any of these entities:
2A Firearms Academy - Doug Kevilus ? 707.410.0389 - contact@2afirearmsacademy.com
Fisher Executive Protection ? Antjuan Fisher (c/o Mona Ellington) ? 510.473.2175 -Afisher@FisherEP.com; FEPLLC@FisherEP.com
Set Free Side Arm Training ? Robert Santiago - 510.295.0409 ? rob@sftraining.com
Dapper Defense - Michael Dapper ? 510.385.3147 ? michael@dapperdefense.net
Marshall Kamena - 925.784.3448 -eyedoc7@pacbell.net
Security Six - Larry Hamby - 925.443.6676 -
LEO Defensive Concepts - Joe Leonardo - 209.321.9692
Crisis 24 ? Devon Taggart -754.732.6131


THE HANDGUN SAFETY COURSE will run for 8 or 16 HOURS.

THE RANGE QUALIFICATION will run for a separate 4 HOURS.

The safety course is for education; the range qualification is the test itself about proficiency.

Provide the instructor proof of ownership of weapon (Dealers Record of Sale, or receipt, or ACSO-issued CCW license). Submit to me the certificate of completion. The certificate should bear the information of the weapon(s) you are qualifying with, the score and its equivalent in percentage, and the date of qualification.

Consult the instructor as to how much the each class costs (8 hours/16 hours/ and range qualification). There will an additional fee for multiple weaponry.

WARNING: If you display inappropriate handling of your weapon, you will be pulled out by the range master from the class and/or shooting line.

Highly recommended gear for shooting: pants (not sweatpants, not shorts), sunglasses, earplugs, baseball cap.

DUE TO THE VOLUME OF CALLS AND APPLICATIONS WE HAVE BEEN TENDING, PRECISE INSTRUCTIONS ARE NECESSARY AND YOUR ADHERENCE IS APPRECIATED.

[BigKat707]

No, DO NOT do what is being suggested above. ALL instructors are given the names of those that have been given the go-ahead to do their training by Judea when those individuals are notified.

We have been instructed that we are not allowed to train Alameda applicants whose names we have not received from Judea. Do not put the instructors in a difficult position like that, unless of course you want to pay to take that course twice.

[Rickybillegas]

I wouldn't take our non-response as any kind of reflection on the individual. We have been swamped with work lately post-Bruen, and some days we are busier than others and just can't respond to everyone.

It's a frustrating set of circumstances but I try to keep perspective on how things were a year ago vs. now.

As for SB2, that is one I can definitively say we will file on day 1 if it passes. That complaint is already drafted because we were ready to go for SB918. We are currently set to challenge all the "sensitive places", but may expand it to also challenge the new permit issuance laws as well.

Does that mean you can file complaint when SB2 is approved, or after it takes effect?

Currently SB2 is no urgency and would take effect Jan. 1 2024, however will probably pass and signed by gov. in next 2-3 months.

Thanks for all your great work on behalf of the people of Ca.

[NateTheNewbie]

Looks like an update from Kostas: https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/stat...21836602724352

I fulfilled all requirements (ie submitted qualifying cert) more than five weeks ago so hopefully something will happen soon.

[Noobie678]

Looks like an update from Kostas: https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/stat...21836602724352

I fulfilled all requirements (ie submitted qualifying cert) more than five weeks ago so hopefully something will happen soon.

Thanks for sharing. Hopefully you will be one of the 55. Have you reached out to Judea for an update and have you heard anything about your pickup date yet?

[gexpro]

Man I hope I’m one of those 55 as well. Fingers crossed. Will update if I hear anything

[AWE]

Become a CRPA Life Member soon they will blanket CA with nowhere to carry.

[Noobie678]

Become a CRPA Life Member soon they will blanket CA with nowhere to carry.

They will try but these are not very smart people in Sacramento. SB2 is a carbon copy of the CCIA law in New York that is in the Second Circuit right now. SB2 will pass, of course, but without an urgency clause it won?t become law until January 1, 2024. Hopefully by then the Second Circuit will have ruled and while that won?t be binding on us, it will ultimately be appealed right away to scotus meaning once again NYSRPA will be doing our our battle.

[SilveradoColt21]

They will try but these are not very smart people in Sacramento. SB2 is a carbon copy of the CCIA law in New York that is in the Second Circuit right now. SB2 will pass, of course, but without an urgency clause it won?t become law until January 1, 2024. Hopefully by then the Second Circuit will have ruled and while that won?t be binding on us, it will ultimately be appealed right away to scotus meaning once again NYSRPA will be doing our our battle.

That's honestly the best outcome as Bruen is a big reason as to why things look a bit more optimistic right now in Alameda county.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

They will try but these are not very smart people in Sacramento. SB2 is a carbon copy of the CCIA law in New York that is in the Second Circuit right now. SB2 will pass, of course, but without an urgency clause it won?t become law until January 1, 2024. Hopefully by then the Second Circuit will have ruled and while that won?t be binding on us, it will ultimately be appealed right away to scotus meaning once again NYSRPA will be doing our our battle.

They're not very smart people in Sacramento? I beg to differ. All it takes is the stroke of a pen to pass something here in CA and put it into law, even if the legislators know it doesn't meet muster, because it takes years and years to reverse it, and that's IF it is reversed and in that time they can kick the proverbial can down the road and try to strengthen their case while that illegal or unconstitutional new law is in place and enforced. It doesn't matter if it's illegal, remember, California does not care nor do they follow the Constitution. They know what they are doing. It's also being pushed through without an urgency clause because non-urgency requires less votes to pass. They learned that lesson last year, changed the wording of a few sections of the bill this time around, got rid of the urgency clause and it will almost certainly pass this time.