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  • AWE
    Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 303

    My friend was right they said if they made it shall issue the person in the Permit Department said they would not issue even if SCOTUS said it was law. Seems true.

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    • SilveradoColt21
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Sep 2021
      • 2439

      Originally posted by AWE
      My friend was right they said if they made it shall issue the person in the Permit Department said they would not issue even if SCOTUS said it was law. Seems true.
      A lawsuit is in clear view then, they are the law so they have to obey the law
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      • Vinnie Boombatz
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 3036

        Originally posted by Noobie678
        This may be true but it doesn’t make any sense. If you’re a prohibited person than you cannot have guns period, let alone get a ccw. Do they really think l that even a tiny fraction of applicants are prohibited persons? They are likely stalling to concoct some scheme to weed out even people with 10 year old arrests without convictions or people with 10 year old DUI or even traffic infractions.
        It actually does makes some sense. Like I said, it will weed out those right away that are prohibited. You're also assuming that everyone out there knows all the rules, and people who are prohibited arent going to apply. That's just being naive on your part. Talk to anyone you know who works or has worked at a gun shop. Prohibited people come in all the time trying to purchase firearms. Some may not even know they are prohibited, but sure, most do but still try. Even if say, 5% who apply are prohibited, that's 5% less that they would have to bring in, interview, and THEN find out later they failed the background check. Why even bother interviewing those people before the background check? Because it was "good cause" before the 2A ruling they could do the interview first and deny you right there, or even before the interview in many cases because the simply didn't agree with your "good cause". Now they cannot do that.

        Do I feel like this is the main reason(s) they are supposedly proposing doing it this way? Maybe, maybe not. But like I said, this is just what I was told by someone who is way more informed and involved than me, but with that said do not to take it as gospel.
        Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 07-11-2022, 6:05 AM.
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        • Vinnie Boombatz
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2020
          • 3036

          What are Alameda county's stand on modifying a carry firearm? I know some counties allow it, others don't. Deciding between my Shield and CZ 75D Compact. Not looking to do anything crazy, just replace the shield trigger with something a little smoother.
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          • AWE
            Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 303

            My friend with a CCW from Solano said they have been doing the fingerprint background FIRST before applying for years.

            And they use the same software https://solanoso.permitium.com

            Alameda does not want to issue CCW permits they are stalling and pretending they don't know what to do.

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            • SilveradoColt21
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2021
              • 2439

              Originally posted by AWE
              My friend with a CCW from Solano said they have been doing the fingerprint background FIRST before applying for years.

              And they use the same software https://solanoso.permitium.com

              Alameda does not want to issue CCW permits they are stalling and pretending they don't know what to do.
              Just a matter of time before CRPA or FPC slaps them with a lawsuit, the more people applying and getting refunds the better as it shows the are violating the 2nd amendment even after the SCOTUS ruling, they are just digging themselves deeper in the hole
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              • AWE
                Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 303

                I hope they sue today because Nothing changed AC is making up all this nonsense about they fell in the toilet and are having issues with backgrounds is hogwash. GOOD CAUSE IS GONE! San Francisco is processing that's like hell freezing over they have no excuse at all in Alameda County

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                • ugimports
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 6249

                  Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                  It actually does makes some sense. Like I said, it will weed out those right away that are prohibited. You're also assuming that everyone out there knows all the rules, and people who are prohibited arent going to apply. That's just being naive on your part. Talk to anyone you know who works or has worked at a gun shop. Prohibited people come in all the time trying to purchase firearms. Some may not even know they are prohibited, but sure, most do but still try. Even if say, 5% who apply are prohibited, that's 5% less that they would have to bring in, interview, and THEN find out later they failed the background check. Why even bother interviewing those people before the background check? Because it was "good cause" before the 2A ruling they could do the interview first and deny you right there, or even before the interview in many cases because the simply didn't agree with your "good cause". Now they cannot do that.

                  Do I feel like this is the main reason(s) they are supposedly proposing doing it this way? Maybe, maybe not. But like I said, this is just what I was told by someone who is way more informed and involved than me, but with that said do not to take it as gospel.
                  Do they really have to interview you and run a background check before finding out you are prohibited? I imagine one of the first things they can do is check if the firearm on your app is in AFS and registered to you and if not kick back your application. And if it IS registered to you and you are prohibited then CA DOJ has bigger problems then that tiny fraction of people applying for a CCW.
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                  • Pony Express
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 3

                    Just applied yesterday and the refund message is now coming blank without any additional context other than "A Refund Has Been Applied". They are now sending back no explanation of why my fee was funded.
                    Last edited by Pony Express; 07-12-2022, 8:13 AM.

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                    • SilveradoColt21
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Sep 2021
                      • 2439

                      Originally posted by Pony Express
                      Just applied yesterday and the refund message is now coming blank without any additional context other than "A Refund Has Been Applied". They are now sending back no explanation of why my fee was funded.
                      More proof, realistically they’re just making things worse for themselves should they need to defend themselves in court.
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                      • cz74
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 912

                        Ahern has nothing to lose, he already lost and retiring, why does the DemoRats still have him on a leash?

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                        • SilveradoColt21
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 2439

                          Originally posted by cz74
                          Ahern has nothing to lose, he already lost and retiring, why does the DemoRats still have him on a leash?
                          Can't wait to see what the next sheriff has in store, hopefully good.
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                          • Gryff
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            • May 2006
                            • 12677

                            Originally posted by SilveradoColt21
                            Can't wait to see what the next sheriff has in store, hopefully good.
                            You're kidding, right? Given the groups that backed her, it makes Ahern look like a Reagan Republican.
                            My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                            • SilveradoColt21
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 2439

                              Originally posted by Gryff
                              You're kidding, right? Given the groups that backed her, it makes Ahern look like a Reagan Republican.
                              I sense you're not an optimist? Lol
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                              • Gryff
                                CGSSA Coordinator
                                • May 2006
                                • 12677

                                Originally posted by SilveradoColt21
                                I sense you're not an optimist? Lol
                                No. I'm a Republican living in Alameda County.
                                My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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