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Just call their CCW line and listen to their updated message.
They don’t know WTF they’re talking about. It’s a confused mess saying SCOTUS is throwing the case back down to lower courts to figure out acceptable GC. They also work in the state legislature somehow too.They finish by saying that GC beyond SD is still the main requirement of state law and their CCW policy.
Bottom line: they’re talking about things above their pay grade.
Take a listen yourself: 510-208-9890
Last edited by Paladin; 06-27-2022, 1:23 PM.Comment
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Hi folks. I just applied on line for an Alameda County CCW. Tomorrow (Monday) I plan on visiting the Sheriff’s office in Dublin and ask for some clarification on questions such as the just cause requirements and the $1M bond.
I will also be calling my homeowners insurance company (State Farm) to get some details on that as well. As you all may know, Ahern lost his primary and will not be Sheriff come November.
I’ll post details of my visit / phone call(s) ASAP.Comment
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Here are my takeaways from my 20 min. meeting with an AC Deputy, a non-badged worker and Judy, the main CCW permit administer:
1. The SO is well aware that the just cause requirement is no longer a requirement. There was no equivocating on this.
2. The “morals” requirement is undefined. The SO is waiting for guidance from Sacramento. The example of “an individual with multiple felony arrests” was offered. **I did not record this conversation so this is what I recall**
3. The cost of the psych test may be increasing. No details.
4. Classroom training and firearms demonstration requirements remain.
5. With regard to the $1M negligent discharge insurance I asked for specific language so that I could be sure to have the correct coverage. No written specifics seem to exist. I then asked about how I show proof of coverage and was told that the SO could not accept any such documentation. I was told that applicants would need to attest to this coverage. Make of this what you will.
6. Expect the CCW process to take a year.
7. The tone of the meeting was very cordial. All my questions were answered and nobody got defensive or evasive.
8. Weather or not the SO should have seen this SCOTUS ruling coming, the permit process in Alameda County is very much a somewhat work in progress.
Hope this helps. harrye.Comment
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Thanks, Harrye
Did they cite or mention any of the penal codes and laws or just gave you answers they have been using for a decade? Because everything you asked is in the law except insurance even not to exceed prices.Last edited by AWE; 06-27-2022, 7:40 PM.Comment
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g. Be of good moral character. For purposes of this policy, with respect to a determination of 'good moral character' factors taken into consideration include, but are not limited to: honesty, arrests or negative contacts with law enforcement agencies, conviction of any crime (including expunged convictions), alcohol or drug-related incidents, numerous moving violations of the California Vehicle Code, civil judgments, pending lawsuits, liens, etc.Last edited by baggss; 06-28-2022, 10:42 AM.Comment
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Those examples would rule out LEO's from having a CCW. That's exactly what the court pointed to there is no second-class citizen.
They way they have been issuing created a regime and tier system for them and their friends and second-class citizens which is a 2A scam.
We have to see what games they are going to play its messy already
Below is the California Laws [25300 - 26406] for CCW which cannot increase prices from what SCOTUS put out. AG of CA referred all to use Riverside as example.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...de=PEN&title=4.Last edited by AWE; 06-28-2022, 11:10 AM.Comment
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Sort of. He used Sacramento AND Riversides GMC policies (which are very similar to what I posted from my IA above) as an example of what it can contain and how it can be applied.
There was no specific direction as to what GMC is or what to use since Ca law doesn't define one and its completely at the whim of the IA.Comment
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Who knows. On the one hand, getting in line makes sense. On the other, SB918 purports to require a state-wide common application, and until this application and process is established it may just be a waiting game.Comment
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