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  • Paladin
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2005
    • 12374

    Originally posted by harrye
    and the $1M bond.
    I will also be calling my homeowners insurance company (State Farm) to get some details on that as well.
    Librarian or contact CRPA.
    240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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    • Paladin
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2005
      • 12374

      Originally posted by Paladin
      Just call their CCW line and listen to their updated message.

      They don’t know WTF they’re talking about. It’s a confused mess saying SCOTUS is throwing the case back down to lower courts to figure out acceptable GC. They also work in the state legislature somehow too. They finish by saying that GC beyond SD is still the main requirement of state law and their CCW policy.

      Bottom line: they’re talking about things above their pay grade.

      Take a listen yourself: 510-208-9890
      Looks like CRPA is b—ch slapping Ahern until he submits.

      Last edited by Paladin; 06-27-2022, 1:23 PM.
      240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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      • cz74
        Senior Member
        • May 2020
        • 912

        Most likely Ahern doesn't care at all, he's probably already making his retirement move to a free state. Haha what a POS.

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        • SilveradoColt21
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Sep 2021
          • 2439

          Originally posted by cz74
          Most likely Ahern doesn't care at all, he's probably already making his retirement move to a free state. Haha what a POS.
          Doesn't matter while he is in office still technically, it is still his business
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          • heisenberg
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 27

            Originally posted by harrye
            Hi folks. I just applied on line for an Alameda County CCW. Tomorrow (Monday) I plan on visiting the Sheriff’s office in Dublin and ask for some clarification on questions such as the just cause requirements and the $1M bond.
            I will also be calling my homeowners insurance company (State Farm) to get some details on that as well. As you all may know, Ahern lost his primary and will not be Sheriff come November.
            I’ll post details of my visit / phone call(s) ASAP.
            What did Dublin sheriff have to say? I have an interview for CCW with ALCO in July. I meet all of their criteria listed online except for the 'good cause' standard that is still listed on their website. I've contacted FPC to give them a heads up in case the application process goes sideways.

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            • harrye
              Junior Member
              • May 2016
              • 29

              Here are my takeaways from my 20 min. meeting with an AC Deputy, a non-badged worker and Judy, the main CCW permit administer:
              1. The SO is well aware that the just cause requirement is no longer a requirement. There was no equivocating on this.
              2. The “morals” requirement is undefined. The SO is waiting for guidance from Sacramento. The example of “an individual with multiple felony arrests” was offered. **I did not record this conversation so this is what I recall**
              3. The cost of the psych test may be increasing. No details.
              4. Classroom training and firearms demonstration requirements remain.
              5. With regard to the $1M negligent discharge insurance I asked for specific language so that I could be sure to have the correct coverage. No written specifics seem to exist. I then asked about how I show proof of coverage and was told that the SO could not accept any such documentation. I was told that applicants would need to attest to this coverage. Make of this what you will.
              6. Expect the CCW process to take a year.
              7. The tone of the meeting was very cordial. All my questions were answered and nobody got defensive or evasive.
              8. Weather or not the SO should have seen this SCOTUS ruling coming, the permit process in Alameda County is very much a somewhat work in progress.

              Hope this helps. harrye.

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              • AWE
                Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 303

                Thanks, Harrye

                Did they cite or mention any of the penal codes and laws or just gave you answers they have been using for a decade? Because everything you asked is in the law except insurance even not to exceed prices.
                Last edited by AWE; 06-27-2022, 7:40 PM.

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                • harrye
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2016
                  • 29

                  Originally posted by AWE
                  Thanks, Harrye

                  Did they cite or mention any of the penal codes and laws or just gave you answers they have been using for a decade? Because everything you asked is in the law except insurance even not to exceed prices.

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                  • Adog5
                    Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 221

                    Should I apply for a CCW in Alameda now or is there any benefit on waiting? What tips do you have to apply for a CCW? Is there a list of things I should prepare...etc.? Thanks in advance for any advice!

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                    • baggss
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3439

                      Originally posted by harrye
                      2. The “morals” requirement is undefined. The SO is waiting for guidance from Sacramento. The example of “an individual with multiple felony arrests” was offered. **I did not record this conversation so this is what I recall**

                      Hope this helps. harrye.
                      Here is an example of what my IA says about GMC in their written policy, the kinds of things that can be considered GMC:

                      g. Be of good moral character. For purposes of this policy, with respect to a determination of 'good moral character' factors taken into consideration include, but are not limited to: honesty, arrests or negative contacts with law enforcement agencies, conviction of any crime (including expunged convictions), alcohol or drug-related incidents, numerous moving violations of the California Vehicle Code, civil judgments, pending lawsuits, liens, etc.
                      Its used to keep the "riff-raff" out from what I can tell. It is subjective as hell but seems to be applied fairly evenly from what I can tell. YMMV.
                      Last edited by baggss; 06-28-2022, 10:42 AM.

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                      • AWE
                        Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 303

                        Those examples would rule out LEO's from having a CCW. That's exactly what the court pointed to there is no second-class citizen.

                        They way they have been issuing created a regime and tier system for them and their friends and second-class citizens which is a 2A scam.

                        We have to see what games they are going to play its messy already


                        Below is the California Laws [25300 - 26406] for CCW which cannot increase prices from what SCOTUS put out. AG of CA referred all to use Riverside as example.
                        https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...de=PEN&title=4.
                        Last edited by AWE; 06-28-2022, 11:10 AM.

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                        • baggss
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3439

                          Originally posted by AWE
                          AG of CA referred all to use Riverside as example.
                          Sort of. He used Sacramento AND Riversides GMC policies (which are very similar to what I posted from my IA above) as an example of what it can contain and how it can be applied.

                          There was no specific direction as to what GMC is or what to use since Ca law doesn't define one and its completely at the whim of the IA.

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                          • holymackrl
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 294

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                            • Gooseman
                              Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 216

                              Time to Apply?

                              With the recent Supreme Court rulings -- think it's time to apply for a CCW in Alameda County? I've never even bothered because I didn't meet their definition of Good Cause. But now.... What say you?

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                              • NateTheNewbie
                                Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 223

                                Originally posted by Gooseman
                                With the recent Supreme Court rulings -- think it's time to apply for a CCW in Alameda County? I've never even bothered because I didn't meet their definition of Good Cause. But now.... What say you?
                                Who knows. On the one hand, getting in line makes sense. On the other, SB918 purports to require a state-wide common application, and until this application and process is established it may just be a waiting game.

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