San Diego CCW

[marcusrn]

Hey folks I am having a hell of a time trying to figure which pistol will be my carry gun. The choices are listed below. A part of me kind of wants to do a carry rotation, but I’m not sure. The only problem I foresee having a carry rotation is it does not give you the ability to be 100% fluent with every pistol.

Please provide me some feedback in reference to which gun you would prefer and recommend. I do kind of have big hands and I am bigger guy.

I have also heard some folks have seasonal guns guns they carry as well. What are your thoughts pertaining to that?

Glock 17
Springfield Armory XD9 4’ Service Model
Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 1.0


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Fear the man with one gun. Don't be silly, CCW the pistol you shoot the best. California is the most pop state. Forty million people wall to wall. They are shoved up against the coast and mostly southland. If you're in SD County plan on these people being there when you shoot your gun. Rotate your wife but not your CCW pistol.

[tomrkba]

Well I would definitely put all of them on your permit. The G17, however, is a pretty big gun to carry. Good reason to pickup a G19 though.

Some questions...And I/we don't need answers to these. They're more for you to think through and figure out what makes sense...

Which of these guns do you shoot the best?

And how do you feel about fighting with, and betting your life on, a small sub compact gun, with short sight radius, greater recoil, less capacity, and one that you can barely get your whole hand on?

And I'm not saying the Shield is a bad choice. Only that a lot of people's thought process begins and ends with, "it's sure nice to carry," without considering actually having to fight with it, with all the crazy crap happening in our world these days.

The California magazine capacity limit of 10 makes your argument almost moot. There is ALMOST no point to carrying a full sized pistol in California that normally has a capacity greater than 10. The primary reason is that it's your most reliable gun and you shoot it really well.

Personally, I would get a Glock 19 and chop the grip to accept Glock 26 factory magazines. This gets you some additional concealability with the option to use G19 and G17 mags with a spacer for comfort and additional palm support.

Alternatively, switch to a gun built around a 10 round mag and increase the caliber. If the capacity infringement is not lifted, then my recommendations are the Glock 30 and Glock 26 since they're on the roster. Roster status may or may not be a requirement of the issuing agency; you'll make that determination for alternates if not.

The roster is very limiting for small carry guns. I know Kahr is maligned, but the Kahr K9 is a very comfortable gun in the hand and is a good shooter. You may find it to be a pleasant alternative to the S&W M&P Shield, which feels too narrow for me.

If trustno12345 can score a Browning Hi Power, you may wish to consider that despite the 10 round limit. The gun is exceptionally concealable due to the grip shape, angle, and resulting overall height.

You may want to consider a six to eight shot revolver in 357 Magnum or 44 Magnum for hiking. I really like the S&W 629 in 44 Magnum loaded with 200 grain Speer Gold Dot 44 Special for urban use (it behaves like 45 ACP). An S&W K-Frame with 3" or 4" barrel will serve you well. Speed Beez offers single speed loader holders that work with all speed loaders, including Safariland ComP I and II loaders. You may be able to flip them around and wear them IWB for more concealment (I am asking them). The key to revolver carry is lots of forward cant, 2.5" to 3.5" barrel, and grips that do not extend past the frame (or "compact grips" if you get a Ruger GP100).

[L84CABO]

The California magazine capacity limit of 10 makes your argument almost moot. There is ALMOST no point to carrying a full sized pistol in California that normally has a capacity greater than 10.

STANDARD capacity mags are all over this state thanks to Freedom Week and I have no idea what OP does or does not have. Further, full size...or larger guns...still have a longer sight radius, manage recoil better, and allow a full grip on the weapon, compared to sub compacts.

[MajorCaliber]

The California magazine capacity limit of 10 makes your argument almost moot. There is ALMOST no point to carrying a full sized pistol in California that normally has a capacity greater than 10. The primary reason is that it's your most reliable gun and you shoot it really well.

I agree with this. We don't know what your mag status is, I have pre-2000 standard capacity mags for instance. If you are limited to 11 rounds make them 11 good ones. I LOVE my G30SF with 11 HST+P, and I shoot it better than anything else I have, bigger or smaller.

[powersx]

Currently on day 86/90, each day feels longer than the last :P

[LDL]

Day 87/90 for me. I finally got my approval letter via email.

[Slanty3y3s]

Currently on day 81...

[macmatthew]

Day 84 for me. Almost there.

[SD53435]

Day 87/90 for me. I finally got my approval letter via email.

So after waiting the 6-8-15months to get an appointment then you have to wait another 90day for approval, then class, then get permit? lol

This process sounds more about tolerance and discipline. Can you have the patience to deal with this process? OK you can have a ccw. Haha

[L84CABO]

So after waiting the 6-8-15months to get an appointment then you have to wait another 90day for approval, then class, then get permit? lol

This process sounds more about tolerance and discipline. Can you have the patience to deal with this process? OK you can have a ccw. Haha

You neglected to mention the roughly $450 you have to fork over between permit fees, classes, etc. But don't you worry...because that permit is only good for two years until you'll have to bend over again and pay another $150+ to renew the damn thing. All of this to exercise what is your GOD GIVEN and constitutionally protected right.

Welcome to California...where you find yourself actually being thankful for this nonsense because there are plenty of counties that don't issue at all.

[powersx]

Has anyone not heard back within the 90 days?

[powersx]

Got a response, background cleared but they haven’t received response from DOJ regarding fingerprints. Day 92.

[macmatthew]

Thats crazy, you're the first person I've seen take longer than 90 days. Im at 89 right now, we'll see how it goes.

[Fizz]

I have an email out to SDSO but.... has anyone removed a firearm from their license without replacing it? Are there fees/appointment waiting periods involved?

[birdman81]

I have an email out to SDSO but.... has anyone removed a firearm from their license without replacing it? Are there fees/appointment waiting periods involved?