San Diego CCW

[ezaircon4jc]

Do any of you have restrictions on your permit? What is the purpose of a restricted license and were you able to remove the restrictions at renewal?

I ask because a friend if mine is coming up on his renewal and was wondering how to get it removed.

No restrictions on mine issued last August.

[birdman81]

Do any of you have restrictions on your permit? What is the purpose of a restricted license and were you able to remove the restrictions at renewal?

I ask because a friend if mine is coming up on his renewal and was wondering how to get it removed.

[ezaircon4jc]

The Permitium order numbers are generated when you submit your application.

There's no separate approval number that I've seen.

I just checked my paperwork. He put the order number on my qual form, but said they were changing over to a new number system.

In any case, one can't do the qualifying without the approval number. Thats why I said once approved, set up the issue date ASAP. I followed their instructions (wait until after the class) and it cost me 3 weeks.

[LoadedM333]

San Diego CCW

The Permitium order numbers are generated when you submit your application.

There's no separate approval number that I've seen.

[Fizz]

This was the case for my initial and renewal training, the instructor asked for approval letter from the Sheriff. The same for other folks attending the class.

The instructor put this information on the training certificate, GP# or CII#.

Not sure how one would provide this if one has not been approved.


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The Permitium order numbers are generated when you submit your application.

There's no separate approval number that I've seen.

[LoadedM333]

The instructor needs the number on your approval email/letter to put on the form. Mine was the order number. What I would do is schedule pick up as soon as possible after scheduling the class.

This was the case for my initial and renewal training, the instructor asked for approval letter from the Sheriff. The same for other folks attending the class.

The instructor put this information on the training certificate, GP# or CII#.

Not sure how one would provide this if one has not been approved.


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[ezaircon4jc]

I didn't want to quote all the training posts so here goes...

The instructor needs the number on your approval email/letter to put on the form. Mine was the order number. What I would do is schedule pick up as soon as possible after scheduling the class. Like I said above, it's not like one won't pass the class. I passed easily and hadn't shot in over 3 years (long story).

[trustno12373]

Most instructors (in my estimation) want approvals not for legal reasons, but for priority reasons. Approvals MUST complete training in 90 days from approval. People who haven't received approvals are possibly displacing those that have formal deadlines to meet such as initial approvals and renewals.

Also, a lot of people are taking classes having not even been fingerprinted yet, so it's possible for the class to expire before you can even use it.

My 30 day recommendation is based on the fact that they're getting close to needing the 90 days to approve, but it is a statutory maximum. So you MUST be approved or declined within that time. I SUSPECT (but do not know) that most denials will come earlier in the process than most approvals.

Thus, 30 days seems to be a a good intersecting point of convenience, and not potentially pissing time/money on a class you can't use.

Thank you for the insight on the training course pertaining to when to start the training course. It does make sense to do the training within that 90 day window. It does seem to speed up the process.

[L84CABO]

I'm jealous!

Between recreational like hunting and fishing, work in government IT, I don't know if I'll qualify.

You absolutely can if you do it right.

I was approved based on my frequent visitation to remote parts of the county for my hobby of...target shooting.

Cell service is sketchy out there and law enforcement response time would most certainly be delayed if I should ever need help. My $30K vehicle and $5K-$10K in firearms that I frequently have with me, makes me an increased target for theft while en route and at the property. Not to mention threats from wild animals.

You could easily substitute hunting, off roading, camping, etc., for target shooting. I provided a map of the location, and they wanted photos of me, the vehicle, guns, etc., at the property. Anything like receipts from a campground would be helpful too.

DO IT! You've got NOTHING to lose.

[CessnaDriver]

I'm jealous!

Between recreational like hunting and fishing, work in government IT, I don't know if I'll qualify.

Start here....

https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/

A lot of the work is just being able to document the justification, not as much as the justification itself being inadequate.

[MajorCaliber]

Government IT you say. Do you bring a laptop home or occasionally work from home? If so, what are you waiting for?

On this subject, if you think about it, it not just the value of the machine its the sensitivity/value of the data on it.

And if you think about it some more, your risk really depends not on the actual value or sensitivity, but on on how a potential attacker is likely to perceive the value of what might be on it. If you are seen daily taking a laptop home from the Lockheed Skunk Works and somebody might think you are carrying the design for the latest hypersonic missile, that is what determines your risk. It does not matter if all you really have is the schedule for changing the facility light bulbs. So if you are seen carrying a computer from a secure government facility where an attacker might reasonably suspect the data is valuable, I would focus on that.

[Fizz]

I'm not 100% sure if you can but I'm sure someone will know that answer.

I took my class immediately after my approval, but when I called around from the list of approved instructor, I was told I needed my approval letter or approval email before I could take the class.

So again, not 100% sure but that's what I was told.

Most instructors (in my estimation) want approvals not for legal reasons, but for priority reasons. Approvals MUST complete training in 90 days from approval. People who haven't received approvals are possibly displacing those that have formal deadlines to meet such as initial approvals and renewals.

Also, a lot of people are taking classes having not even been fingerprinted yet, so it's possible for the class to expire before you can even use it.

My 30 day recommendation is based on the fact that they're getting close to needing the 90 days to approve, but it is a statutory maximum. So you MUST be approved or declined within that time. I SUSPECT (but do not know) that most denials will come earlier in the process than most approvals.

Thus, 30 days seems to be a a good intersecting point of convenience, and not potentially pissing time/money on a class you can't use.

[Fizz]

Congrats. Thanks for your advise about taking the training class about 30 days after the live scan has been submitted. My question is are you allowed to take the class before having written approval from the Sheriffs department. I didn't think that you could even take the class without having the approval letter to show to the instructor.

Please advise.

Thanks

Yes you can. I know of indirectly a few people who have done it that way, and one direct contact that did it that way.

Your completion certificate is good for 90 days, and you may attend a class well before your formal approval.

Once you get your approval, you can pay your final fee, and submit your cert online and schedule your pickup.

SDSO makes it seem like you take class after approval. This is probably insurance on their part so they don't get yelled at for people that take the class and ultimately get denied for whatever reason.

[birdman81]

I'm not 100% sure if you can but I'm sure someone will know that answer.

I took my class immediately after my approval, but when I called around from the list of approved instructor, I was told I needed my approval letter or approval email before I could take the class.

So again, not 100% sure but that's what I was told.

[trustno12373]

Approved, training certificate done. I pick up next week.

It's probably mentioned elsewhere but some time saving tips that I missed.

I would do your training class about the 30 days mark after you get fingerprinted. The cert is good for 90 days. This way when you get the notification of your approval you can immediately upload and schedule to pick up.

I lost several weeks doing things sequentially. I got more approval THEN scheduled my class (1 week delay). After my class THEN I scheduled the pickup 1.5 week delay.

It's best to simply be done before they are IMO. You might get a denial, but the worst case scenario you work with your instructor to renew the cert after you get the issue cleared up.

Congrats. Thanks for your advise about taking the training class about 30 days after the live scan has been submitted. My question is are you allowed to take the class before having written approval from the Sheriffs department. I didn't think that you could even take the class without having the approval letter to show to the instructor.

Please advise.

Thanks