Questions you would like to ask Turners

[wangankin]

@Turners

Do any of your stores (More Specifically Pasadena) have 10/20 Magpul pmags in-stock? Preferably in FDE or BLK.

[Munk]

Thank you for sharing that. We definitely have some things that we've go to work on and streamlining the PPT process and becoming more PPT-friendly is one of our priorities.

On the topic of transfers; would you be willing to change your pricing for dealer transfers?

I know PPT's are capped at the 25+10, but for other transfers you charge over 100$. This is very... prohibitive to getting me into your store. I've done a few dealer transfers in the past couple years and have avoided Turners because of the exhorbitant cost. I took my savings and bought a couple of accessories for each of the guns and some ammo. I'd have rather spent it at Turners since I'm rediculously close to one of your locations ( I live closer than every employee who works there to my knowledge).

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

@Turners

Do any of your stores (More Specifically Pasadena) have 10/20 Magpul pmags in-stock? Preferably in FDE or BLK.

PM sent; thanks!

[Ledbetter]

Do you have a requirement that PPT customers must buy a lock from you, or provide a lock with proof it was purchased in the last 30 days, in order to complete the transfer?

If so, what law requires this or is it simply a Turner's policy?

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

On the topic of transfers; would you be willing to change your pricing for dealer transfers?

I know PPT's are capped at the 25+10, but for other transfers you charge over 100$. This is very... prohibitive to getting me into your store. I've done a few dealer transfers in the past couple years and have avoided Turners because of the exhorbitant cost. I took my savings and bought a couple of accessories for each of the guns and some ammo. I'd have rather spent it at Turners since I'm rediculously close to one of your locations ( I live closer than every employee who works there to my knowledge).

Over the last 20 years, we've moved up and down on FFL transfer prices for a number of reasons. As it has become increasingly interesting (and expensive) to do business in CA, our transfer fees have gone up.

Today, we've focused our firearm business on the sale of new/used/consigned guns in our retail stores. Conducting transfers for guns sold outside of our stores is not our primary focus but moreover conducting those transfers cost us as much as the guns that are sold in our stores but just without the benefit of us being the primary seller.

By the way, we charge reduced fees for some types of transfers (LEO, military, industry partners and industry media, amongst others) and we charge no fees for transfers of guns sold/raffled/won at NRA/CRPA/DU/CWA/RMEF/SCI, etc. dinners and events.

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

Do you have a requirement that PPT customers must buy a lock from you, or provide a lock with proof it was purchased in the last 30 days, in order to complete the transfer?

If so, what law requires this or is it simply a Turner's policy?

CA requires that all firearms sold or transferred, including PPT's passing through a dealer, include or be accompanied by an approved firearm safety device. (12088.1.(a) )

There is an exemption for FSD's purchased within 30 days of the transfer date, provided that the device is presented to the dealer, a receipt dated within 30 days is also presented to the dealer and that the dealer verifies everything and retains a copy of that receipt. (12088.1. (e) (1-5)

There is also an exemption that allows the customer to sign an affidavit attesting to ownership of a gun safe. However, the Federal CSLA of 2005, does not acknowledge that affidavit with respect to handgun transfers. (Transfers of curio's are exempt from this requirement, though.)

Most but not all customers will opt to purchase a lock from us at the time of a handgun PPT as a convenient alternative to providing the lock and receipt purchased 30 days prior. On long gun PPT's, most customers own safes and are signing affidavits.

[Ledbetter]

Why would you expect there to be a federal (the Federal CSLA of 2005) exemption to a state (12088.1.(a) ) requirement? If it's a state requirement, I don't understand your reasoning in not recognizing the state exemption regarding an affidaviti of ownership. Every other gun store where I have done PPT's does not follow your practice.

People who do PPT's also buy new guns, sometimes a lot of new guns. I tend to do business with those gun stores I am most familiar with, sometimes from prior PPTs.

[Napalm Bulldog]

Why would you expect there to be a federal (the Federal CSLA of 2005) exemption to a state (12088.1.(a) ) requirement? If it's a state requirement, I don't understand your reasoning in not recognizing the state exemption regarding an affidaviti of ownership. Every other gun store where I have done PPT's does not follow your practice.People who do PPT's also buy new guns, sometimes a lot of new guns. I tend to do business with those gun stores I am most familiar with, sometimes from prior PPTs.

Just put down you own a safe and move on! This is not a thread for arguments. He answered your question with what their policy is. Asked and answered!

[Unkl Bang]

Why doesn't Turner's sell the Ares defense RCU-22 carbine uppers for the Ruger MK series anymore?I finally talked myself into it and walked into the San Bernardino store cash in hand. The Employee said you discontinued it . Can I special order one? I'd also like to see the Advantage Arms Glock 22LR conversion kits in your stores. I can afford to shoot a heck of alot more of 22 compared to other calibers.

[titus75]

Probably dumb question but I'm in SLO county and unfamiliar with Turner's. Do you ship to other in state ffl's? I see alot of things I like in your weekly flyer but I'm assuming I would have to make two round trips to purchase any guns.

[Damzk]

Not really a question but a suggestion. As mentioned before about the wait time. I have had a number of times where I saw the ad and knew what I wanted before going in. I had to wait about 20-30 minutes to just pick up my shotgun because I was waiting. Anyways a quick access line would be nice for like picking up guns, getting ammo from behind the counter or stuff like that, just for people that only need help for like a few minutes.

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

Ares-22

Why doesn't Turner's sell the Ares defense RCU-22 carbine uppers for the Ruger MK series anymore?I finally talked myself into it and walked into the San Bernardino store cash in hand. The Employee said you discontinued it . Can I special order one? I'd also like to see the Advantage Arms Glock 22LR conversion kits in your stores. I can afford to shoot a heck of alot more of 22 compared to other calibers.

Unkl Bang-

We only dropped them because they quit shipping product. In fact, we're not sure if Ares is going to continue forward with commercial business. BTW, contact the folks at San Bernardino and have them see if we have any RCU's left in any other Turner's locations. I know they are thinning out but there may be one or two left somewhere.

[glock_this]

When was the last time you showed the Cali compliant P22 Military green in your system? Sku# CAP22007

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

Probably dumb question but I'm in SLO county and unfamiliar with Turner's. Do you ship to other in state ffl's? I see alot of things I like in your weekly flyer but I'm assuming I would have to make two round trips to purchase any guns.

Currently, we can work out payment with you and we'll ship to your local FFL. In a few months, we'll be embarking on our online store and we'll ship everywhere with a little less manual process than the way we do it today.

E-mail us when you see something you'll like and we'll get it done.

Thanks.

[Turner's Outdoorsman]

Not really a question but a suggestion. As mentioned before about the wait time. I have had a number of times where I saw the ad and knew what I wanted before going in. I had to wait about 20-30 minutes to just pick up my shotgun because I was waiting. Anyways a quick access line would be nice for like picking up guns, getting ammo from behind the counter or stuff like that, just for people that only need help for like a few minutes.

That's not a bad idea. We hope to cut all wait times- initial sale and pick-ups- drastically as we roll out our new system. Some of our stores have used numbering systems, but with mixed success. It does cut down on the confusion of who's next, but it can make customers feel rushed.

As the new system goes online, we'll take a look at ideas like yours and see what works. Thanks for the suggestion.