Why are some men like this.....?

[Loubot10]

I've taught a few people (male and female) to handle semi-autos.

1. Not one noob racked my 1911's successfully the first time. Unfamiliar and aprehensive.

2. My 5'3" wife now racks and shoots all of them (stock springs) with confidence.

[Shoot-it]

I will say my wife does have a hard time pulling back the slide on my xd-40 it does have a heavy spring but she can do it if she has to.
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I don't want to hijack this but what semi autos have easyier springs to pull back on ?

[autoduel]

M&P 9 full size is easier, but then I bought the compact which is about the same as the full size XD.
Anyhow, technique is just as important. Pinching and pulling requires a lot of hand strength. I found that grasping the slide over the top with your palm, holding it in place, and pushing the gun out with the trigger hand is much easier. My wife has no problem with this method.

[kalimus]

I honestly don't know why this is surprising. Why do "some women" say "men are jerks"? Opposing sexes make generalizations about each other all the time, and it goes both ways. And as others have stated... can't blame him too much. Nobody knows what experiences he's had with women shooters. He MIGHT truly not be sexist. That's why people make generalizations in the first place.

I for one, have known more women to have trouble racking a slide (initially) than men... but I have seen both genders have the problem. My ex was a little bitty thing and she had a helluva time racking the slide the first couple of times on my P220. She said "I didn't realize it was going to be that hard". Had nothing to do with her strength, just that the effort it took caught her off guard. She eventually got it, but she always looked like she had to put a good amount of effort into it.

I've also seen an 18 year old male have a hard time racking a Beretta... so... yeah.

[oregonnative1968]

I have 2 1911's and a 380 that my wife has trouble racking. She has pinched the webbing in her hand a couple times but keeps practicing 2-3 times a week. She will get the technique down at some point. In the mean time I jailed a River SP101 for her. She also has her Mossberg 500 if she needs a little more horsepower. Bottom line is have something you can use without issue and keep practicing what you can't until you can.

[j411701]

Based on my experience (which is by no means scientific), the women I've seen who had that attitude had it because the revolver has been portrayed as a lesser weapon only fit for women who can't handle a semi auto. They were offended because the people (men) "helping" them pick a gun automatically assume they can't handle a semi auto and therefore recommend a revolver and as as if it's a lesser weapon.

I was at the range the other day and this lady could not shoot her husbands revolver well because it had a very heavy DA trigger pull. I loaned them mine and all her shots were in the black.

[j411701]

M&P 9 full size is easier, but then I bought the compact which is about the same as the full size XD.
Anyhow, technique is just as important. Pinching and pulling requires a lot of hand strength. I found that grasping the slide over the top with your palm, holding it in place, and pushing the gun out with the trigger hand is much easier. My wife has no problem with this method.

Technique, Yes. Also with the over hand technique you are using two mussel groups.
Vicki Farnam has some good books on teaching women to shoot also

http://www.corneredcat.com/

[guns4life]

Based on my experience (which is by no means scientific), the women I've seen who had that attitude had it because the revolver has been portrayed as a lesser weapon only fit for women who can't handle a semi auto. They were offended because the people (men) "helping" them pick a gun automatically assume they can't handle a semi auto and therefore recommend a revolver and as as if it's a lesser weapon.

Right, which leads me back to my point...there is some chip on their shoulder if they think using the standard in handheld firearms for some 175 years makes them feel like they are being offered a sub-standard firearm...the men who portray the revolver as such are dingleberries. The earth is filled with people who met their fate at the end of a revolver.

[19hugeracks57]

i know i shouldn't be on this thred ...but showing my wife and daughters this forum i have learned that most men try to tell women what they want to tell them instead of what they want to hear. my wife (20 yrs) and daughters are looking for a handgun and i told them that what i want and what they want is 2 differant thing so on June 1st we will be going to RAAHAUGES for the TURNERS SHOTTING FAIR where they can test drive any gun their little hearts can dessire

[Pablo5959]

Man, you guys went and stepped in it with both feet.
Just say yes dear then go take out the trash. Done

[BonnieB]

Well, not really a smart question. There are weak and strong women, just like there are weak and strong men.

Ya gotta try things on till you find something you like and that fits. Just like shoes.

[1859sharps]

when I worked behind the counter oh so many years ago, when a guy and his gal were window shopping a new pistola for her, if they didn't have anything specific in mind, I always presented the glock 19 first to make a point....

and that point is....it's her choice. if the gun fits her hand, and she can operate it, then that is the one for her...including one of these new fangled glocks...

See back when I worked behind the counter, it was just "understood" women used revolvers. auto's were men's guns.

[Mr357magnum]

Acting like revolvers are some kind of lesser weapon, suitable only for a woman is laughable. While a .38 in a 3" barrel is something any woman can manipulate effectively, one should not consider revolvers "girl guns". It's a disservice to revolvers and their capabilities, and women offended at the notion of using one think too highly of themselves IMO.

THIS.

I don't see why theres so much hate toward revolvers. They are incredibly simple to use and rarely ever malfunction. People who think they are lesser because they shoot a revolver need to calm down. A revolver (S&W 686+) is my house gun and I am a male.

I have worked the gun counter in the past and alot of times I would get a man and wife or sometimes a single guy or a single girl wanting a gun for home protection. A revolver (a med to large frame, not small j-frames) is a great choice for a home defense handgun in my opinion. But we arent debating that aspect of it...

I have sold L-frame S&W revolvers (and autos for that matter) to plenty of girls and guys... Both types of handguns have their pros and cons. For me, a revolver is a better choice for HD whether youre a guy or a girl. but thats just my opinion..

[Mtn folk]

I'll take a stab at the op question.
First, don't get in a twist about "some guys".
I call it little penisitis! I am a man, a veteran, and have been around guns for a while. I sometimes get treated like I don't know anything either. Local gun stores, on the range, where ever.
It is usually the loudest guy in the group, wanting people to look up to them.

It is just the cross section of society. Just take advice you feel is valuable and let the BS go out the other ear.

It doesn't matter what activity you get into, there will always be that one asshat. Don't let them bug ya.

[1859sharps]

THIS.

I don't see why theres so much hate toward revolvers. They are incredibly simple to use and rarely ever malfunction.

I don't see it so much as hate, but lack of experience and knowledge. revolvers were for years and years THE handgun for everyone. And while they are "simple" and may rarely malfunction, when they do, the malfunctions often take the gun out of service. And it doesn't take much of a malfunction to take a revolver out of service.

Autos, can also malfunction and be taken out of service as well. but they also can take abuse the revolvers can't and still function. it takes a lot more to take a auto out of action than a revolver.

To me the issue is this. people are drawn to a particular type of gun for personal reasons. They should be allowed to make factual, and informed choices. rather than be limited to just a type because of their gender.

which is why I always presented a glock 19 to women if they didn't have anything in mind. to plant the idea that they aren't limited to a particular type of gun. and I helped that thought along with some words as well.