My CA FFL Proof of Residency Cheat Sheet.

[tenpercentfirearms]

As soon as class is out for the day, I am going to make some calls and ask about the new automated Fish and Game system. I know from having the ALS myself that I could change their address no problem, but it will be intersesting to see what the DOJ and ATF say about it.

I mean really during an audit do you think they are going to argue it? I could see where the old licenses and the DMV browncards are hand written, but this is a printed government license with period of validity.

I'll keep you updated.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I just talked to Rene from CA DOJ and she believes that the printed hunting licenses are acceptable for state handgun proof of residency.

I then called Jan from ATF and she also agree that it is a government issued document for federal 4473 purposes.

I would say start using them boys and girls! Time to edit the cheat sheet.

[TestaRossa]

Ok so I'm a permanent resident(alien), I have a CA DL with my name and current address, and credit card statements with my name and current address. To fulfill for CA DROS Requirements, I still need another form of proof correct?
The problem is I currently don't have a car registration under my name, nor utility bills. Any suggestions?

[tenpercentfirearms]

Ok so I'm a permanent resident(alien), I have a CA DL with my name and current address, and credit card statements with my name and current address. To fulfill for CA DROS Requirements, I still need another form of proof correct?
The problem is I currently don't have a car registration under my name, nor utility bills. Any suggestions?

What kind of firearm are you buying? Handgun or long gun?

For long guns, if you have three continuous months of credit card bills, you are good.

For handguns, you would still need a government issued document with expiration date or a hard wire utility bill from the last 90 days. Basically you need something from this list. http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#33G

[TestaRossa]

What kind of firearm are you buying? Handgun or long gun?

For long guns, if you have three continuous months of credit card bills, you are good.

For handguns, you would still need a government issued document with expiration date or a hard wire utility bill from the last 90 days. Basically you need something from this list. http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#33G

It's a handgun. Would an AAA membership card work?

Sent from my DROID X2

[Rudolf the Red]

I had a customer use an unusual document for his 4473 requirement.

His California Brand Registration card. As in branding cattle. Gov't issued with address printed on a wallet card.

[tenpercentfirearms]

It's a handgun. Would an AAA membership card work?

Sent from my DROID X2

Is AAA a hard wired utility company or a government agency?

[TestaRossa]

Is AAA a hard wired utility company or a government agency?

Don't think so but I've heard other people say it works, maybe I was mistaken. Guess the easiest way is to write up a rental lease agreement with my parents then.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Don't think so but I've heard other people say it works, maybe I was mistaken. Guess the easiest way is to write up a rental lease agreement with my parents then.

You were probably not mistaken. People probably mistakenly thought AAA would work. I wouldn't accept it.

[TestaRossa]

You were probably not mistaken. People probably mistakenly thought AAA would work. I wouldn't accept it.

Well all in all thanks for clearing that up man!

[EBR Works]

I had a client yesterday for a rifle transfer with a DL that did not have his current address and an auto reg that was expired by 1 day. He gave me an LA city DWP bill for POR. LA DWP is a govt utility right?

[kemasa]

As far as I know, the LA DWP is a government own utility.

[EBR Works]

Thanks!

[almaster666]

Great thread, thanks for all the info!

[EBR Works]

I received a handgun for a 21 year old buyer. Upon contacting him he stated that his DL does not have his current residence address but he has the updated paper temp DL along with the original. He also does not have any other documentation for POR.

Am I correct that I can accept the original DL along with the paper temp? Is this the "DMV printout" mentioned in the cheat sheet? Am I correct that he can get his auto registration updated with his name and he will be good to go?

Clarify please.