Ask the receiving FFL to block the mags for you. We do that for a fee ($15/mag) -- cheaper than losing the mags altogether.
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Good tip. Before i ask them, may you explain how you guys block the mags?
Also you didn't seem concerned about the guns having different SKUs, am i worrying about nothing?Comment
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Depends on the pistol. For the SP01 the 91152 is the same gun as 01152 (just mag difference). Springfield Armory 1911s, different story..
As far as how to block the mags? I use mag blocks that I rivet to the floor plate. Everyone does it differently currently. Ask your preferred FFL how they would do it. They might use a block + epoxy or block + epoxy + rivet.UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
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Duly noted. Thanks for the info. I'm trying my best to not scare off FFLs when i ask if they can receive an SKU "not" on the roster.Depends on the pistol. For the SP01 the 91152 is the same gun as 01152 (just mag difference). Springfield Armory 1911s, different story..
As far as how to block the mags? I use mag blocks that I rivet to the floor plate. Everyone does it differently currently. Ask your preferred FFL how they would do it. They might use a block + epoxy or block + epoxy + rivet.
UPDATE:
I called several gun stores around and I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it is. They can still DROS the gun but will keep/toss the mags (except for honey badger firearms).
As of 20170223 FFL transfer fees (add tax to all)
Socal Gun = 75 + 28.50 DORS
San Diego Guns = 40 +25 DROS
Honey Badger Firearms = 50 (this is the only one that can guarantee block mags 5 bucks each) + 25 DROS
Chula Vista Gun Store = 30 + 30 DROS
Royal Loan = 90 + 25 DROS
American Shooting = 100 + 25 DROS
Gusslers = 45 + 25 DROS
I'm choosing between San Diego Guns / Honey Badger Firearms / Chula Vista Gun Store / Gusslers.
Note, all of the above offered excellent customer service over the phone and answered all my stupid questions.
UPDATED 2:
I've decided to go with Honey Badger. They mag block the 18 rounders to 10 rounders for 5$ each which brings the overall price of the CZ to the lowest of the bunch. No other dealer offered that service. MagCar mags are going for $22.50 on ebay right now so I added $45 to the final price for other dealers. San Diego Guns and Chula Vista Gun Store total was $803 and $799 respectively. Honey Badger would be $779. Note, SDguns and CVgunstore were cheapest at $755 each but the additional cost of me buying mags bounced them above Honey Badger.
Now, I could just wait till the CZ's are in stock in san diego, however most gunstores price them above $690 retail so after taxes and fees im looking at $770 at best. I'm just too impatient and would spent a few bucks to get it now.
Special thanks to the users who helped me. I did not know magblocking was a thing and specific requirements to ship into CA.
UPDATE 3:
I called Honey Badger asking about the process of ordering a gun online. They said to have the FFL contact them and thats about it. All my contact info will be given to them by the seller and they'll call me when the gun arrives to start the DROS. I called the gunbroker seller and they were also very helpful. Gave them Honey Badgers contact info and they said they would take care of it. At first he was concerned they can't ship the gun with the mags and said they could remove the mags. He also tried looking to see if they had a 01152 model to save me some money. After explaining honey badger will pin the mags the gunbroker seller was happy to accept payment and ship the gun with mags. Overall great experience. Note: I'm only logging this info here because i think it may help someone else down the road, especially in San Diego area. Of the dealers i called only Honey Badger offered to pin mags to 10 rounds. This may help others obtain SP01s
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Looking for an FFL in Stanislaus County with a decent transfer fee for my online purchases (handguns/long guns) please, thanks.BRING IT!
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UNDETERMINED status.
Anybody know of any FFL's that release on a Possible Undetermined status in Socal? thanx.
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None. No FFL can do that conversion legally in California. The firearm must be compliant before entering the state.
CA AW FFL holders could in theory receive it, but have been told if they do CA compliant conversions their AW permit will be revoked.
ETA: What Baboosh mentioned below will work. Shipping disassembled has no issues because it's not an AW at that point. Any FFL can install compliance parts before it is re-assembled.Last edited by ugimports; 06-15-2017, 10:01 AM.UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
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If it is shipped disassembled then yes. Also the DOJ new AW laws list specifically that if certain items are removed it is no longer a semi automatic rifle and AW laws do not apply.
If the seller is willing to help and the FFL understands the law then it can be easier to get it in without a middle manJust a normal guyComment
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None. No FFL can do that conversion legally in California. The firearm must be compliant before entering the state.
CA AW FFL holders could in theory receive it, but have been told if they do CA compliant conversions their AW permit will be revoked.
ETA: What Baboosh mentioned below will work. Shipping disassembled has no issues because it's not an AW at that point. Any FFL can install compliance parts before it is re-assembled.What changed in 2017 that allows CA FFLs to convert AWs into non AW's? I have been asked a lot lately to just split AR15s in half and forward to CA lately. Prior to 2017 that was almost always rejected by CA FFLs because they considered them as AW's in a state of disassembly/repair and not "un"-AW's. If I could have shipped them like that last year it would have been a much easier and faster process. I would like to get more CA FFLs on board with accepting disassembled guns but I do not know what PC to show that makes it legal to just disassemble rifles to make them legal.If it is shipped disassembled then yes. Also the DOJ new AW laws list specifically that if certain items are removed it is no longer a semi automatic rifle and AW laws do not apply.
If the seller is willing to help and the FFL understands the law then it can be easier to get it in without a middle man
If sending a disassembled AR15 is legal how is the buyer able to take possession if assembling for the safety demo turns it back into an AW if it is not converted at the FFLs premise?sigpic
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The way CA DOJ has published new regulations is why this is confirmed legal now. They basically stated disassembled firearms cannot be AWs.What changed in 2017 that allows CA FFLs to convert AWs into non AW's? I have been asked a lot lately to just split AR15s in half and forward to CA lately. Prior to 2017 that was almost always rejected by CA FFLs because they considered them as AW's in a state of disassembly/repair and not "un"-AW's. If I could have shipped them like that last year it would have been a much easier and faster process. I would like to get more CA FFLs on board with accepting disassembled guns but I do not know what PC to show that makes it legal to just disassemble rifles to make them legal.
If sending a disassembled AR15 is legal how is the buyer able to take possession if assembling for the safety demo turns it back into an AW if it is not converted at the FFLs premise?
In regards to assembly for demo, the firearm would need to be compliant to complete that piece. However, many customers are exempt form the demo if they have a hunting license, CCW, LEO, or a few other exemptions.
We don't have an issue with split up for shipping.UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales
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