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[Lurch762]

Go here and you can download a list of every FFL in CA or the USA for that matter. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/listing...sees-ffls-2017 You might get lucky and discover there is an FFL just 0.5 miles from your house like I did!

[kemasa]

That list does not mean that they will do transfers. They might not even have all the required licenses and permits.

[dcnblues]

Looking for FFL in NO CAL who can do SAE conversion.

[Baboosh]

You can always have it shipped to us and we can do the SAE conversion.

[ripro75]

Where in Nor Cal? I'm in Lincoln and can do it.

[ifilef]

$45 for a PPT is illegal, so it is bad. A PPT is limited to $25 for the DROS and $10 for the FFL.

IIRC, the statute(s) are quite clear that overcharging for a PPT will subject the violator to license forfeiture.

[kemasa]

IIRC, the statute(s) are quite clear that overcharging for a PPT will subject the violator to license forfeiture.

And how often have you seen that happen?

[ifilef]

And how often have you seen that happen?

I can't competently answer that question but would encourage a call to the DOJ whenever someone encounters such PPT overcharging.

I believe there's an additional statute that requires FFL to post signage indicating lawful charges for PPT.

Later: Found this statute re signage:

"26875.
A licensee shall post conspicuously within the licensed premises a detailed list of each of the following:
(a) All charges required by governmental agencies for processing firearm transfers required by Section 12806, Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050), and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6.
(b) All fees that the licensee charges pursuant to Section 12806 and Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).
(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)"

See, also, FAQ #20 here: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#20G

Controlling statute re over-charging:

"28055.
(a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.

(b) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690 and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6 and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in Section 31650.

(c) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.

(d) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from charging a smaller fee.
(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)"

[Baboosh]

And how often have you seen that happen?

I can't name one.

[Addax]

And how often have you seen that happen?

Never heard of any dealer getting into trouble over this either.

[ugimports]

Never heard of any dealer getting into trouble over this either.

Which is probably why there's folks that charge more.. they pretty much know the DOJ isn't going to enforce anything...

[Addax]

Which is probably why there's folks that charge more.. they pretty much know the DOJ isn't going to enforce anything...

Yeah, while the rest of us dealers are trying to eek out an honest living, and doing everything in our power to understand & abide by the different laws and regulations..

[kemasa]

Yeah, while the rest of us dealers are trying to eek out an honest living, and doing everything in our power to understand & abide by the different laws and regulations..

Yeah, because if I were to ignore the law then I would be the one that the DOJ decides to make an example of.

I have no problem witn people reporting violations, but they should not expect much.

I did once get a nasty phone call from the DOJ because a TX FFL complained that I would not deliver some firearms to his customer, which surprised me since it was none of their business. When I explained the sales tax evasion issue, things changed quite a bit.

[kemasa]

I can't competently answer that question but would encourage a call to the DOJ whenever someone encounters such PPT overcharging.

I am not saying not to do that, but I suspect that the most that will happen is that the FFL will get a phone call. I would not even bet on a phone call though.

I believe there's an additional statute that requires FFL to post signage indicating lawful charges for PPT.

Quite true, but there is also a sign on the freeway with the speed limit, but that does not mean everyone or even a majority of people who violate it get a ticket. I have never heard of a FFL getting in serious trouble for violating the law with respect to PPT fees. Perhaps it has happened, but I would have thought that it would get mentioned. Now, I am not going to violate the law just because others get away with it, for several reasons.

[rauldelga]

I'm located in La Mesa/San Diego (91942) and can drive 25ish miles to an FFL. Looking for someone who will receive and DROS a CZ-SP01 to me from a out of state FFL.

The odd ball is that the CZ-SP01 comes with the high-cap magazines. I've heard of gun stores keeping the mags and DROSing the gun which is what i prefer. If not, i could ask the seller FFL to remove the mags and send the gun. The CA Roster calls out the SP01 by SKU (01152) which is the low capacity version. The standard capacity version is (91152). I do not know if that would cause issue. I know of San Diego Guns selling a (91152) without mags so i'm assuming its acceptable but i would like to try out Calguns first before calling.

Many Thanks!