1 in 30 After July 1st 2021

[Kestryll]

While I'm sure most of you already know this we have had a few FFL's reach out with questions about how this new version applies to PPTs and if they are still exempt. I figure it can't hurt to post this.

I'd like to thank Chuck Michel, Matt Cuberio and Michel and Assoc. for their help in figuring this out. They do yeoman's duty daily working for 2A.APPLICATION TO PURCHASEapplication to purchase more than one handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase both a handgun and semiautomatic centerfire rifle within the same 30-day period.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
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(8) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).


CHAPTER 5. Procedure For a Private Party Firearms Transaction [28050 - 28070]
28050. *
(a) A person shall complete any sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm through a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, in accordance with this chapter in order to comply with Section 27545.
(b) The seller or transferor or the person loaning the firearm shall deliver the firearm to the dealer who shall retain possession of that firearm.
(c) The dealer shall then deliver the firearm to the purchaser or transferee or the person being loaned the firearm, if it is not prohibited, in accordance with Section 27540.
(d) If the dealer cannot legally deliver the firearm to the purchaser or transferee or the person being loaned the firearm, the dealer shall forthwith, without waiting for the conclusion of the waiting period described in Sections 26815 and 27540, return the firearm to the transferor or seller or the person loaning the firearm. The dealer shall not return the firearm to the seller or transferor or the person loaning the firearm when to do so would constitute a violation of Section 27500, 27505, 27515, 27520, 27525, 27530, or 27535. If the dealer cannot legally return the firearm to the transferor or seller or the person loaning the firearm, then the dealer shall forthwith deliver the firearm to the sheriff of the county or the chief of police or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county, who shall then dispose of the firearm in the manner provided by Sections 18000, 18005, and 34000.

[anthracite]

Thank you for posting this.

I knew this change was coming, but for some reason I originally interpreted it as a separate 1 in 30 timer for each handguns and long guns, not that they were on the same 1 in 30 timer.

27535. (a) A person shall not make an application to purchase more than one handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase both a handgun and semiautomatic centerfire rifle within the same 30-day period.

[Featureless]

Is that also a restriction on sellers?

[sfe187]

Is that also a restriction on sellers?

Negative.

[microwaveguy]

I would have to dig some but I though those with C&R and COE have an exemption?

[sfe187]

I would have to dig some but I though those with C&R and COE have an exemption?

Correct.

[medicdubs96]

Would this apply to rifle frames, receivers(complete or stripped)?

[bugsy714]

Would this apply to rifle frames, receivers(complete or stripped)?

If they are transferred at semi automatic then yes


Dictated but not read, voice typing plus bad eyes equals typos

[ugimports]

If they are transferred at semi automatic then yes


Dictated but not read, voice typing plus bad eyes equals typos

Why? They are not rifles. No caliber is chosen. How does DOJ know they are not 22LR?

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[RollsRoy]

Why? They are not rifles. No caliber is chosen. How does DOJ know they are not 22LR?

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Any clarification on this? Need to know if I can DROS 2 complete lowers at the same time post July 1.

[bugsy714]

Any clarification on this? Need to know if I can DROS 2 complete lowers at the same time post July 1.

[ugimports]

That is a negative

They are transferred as semi automatic multi caliber according to the FFL‘s I have spoken with just do it before July 1


Dictated but not read, voice typing plus bad eyes equals typos

Not sure what FFLs you go to. Let me know where you see Multi Caliber on the DROS screen:

or


Honestly, I wouldn't trust an FFL that doesn't know what's on the DROS screen for a receiver. Sounds like they don't know what they are doing. Given the screenshot above how does DOJ know you are not making a 22LR Semi-Auto rifle?

However, if you have FFLs unwilling to transfer you lowers due to 1-in-30, I'm sorry. You are still restricted by whatever they deem their policy is.

[ugimports]

Any clarification on this? Need to know if I can DROS 2 complete lowers at the same time post July 1.

Not sure what clarification you want. I only know what I read in the PC saying Semi-Auto Centerfire Rifles. A lower is never a Semi-Auto Centerfire Rifle. If it was I'd have to worry about AW laws, but somehow I don't...because they are not Semi-Auto Centerfire Rifles..

I could be wrong and DOJ does some underground regulation stuff.., but I fail to see how a receiver can be treated as a rifle.

I transfer Ruger 10/22 and clone frames frequently. Look at my screenshot above.. How would DOJ know the difference between those and an Aero that you were building a 22LR AR out of?

I don't see it, but bugsy714's FFL contacts see something I don't I guess.

[Djantlive]

Get all the new guns at the same time before July 1 if you want to save on DROs and not have to buy one at a time 30 days apart. This applies to any DROs, pistol or long gun.

I am getting 3 tomorrow. There is a shortage on lowers at online places like sportsman’s. Waiting for 2 weeks and I’m going to get mine at a local shop for a little more $ instead of sportsman’s.

[iliveinhope]

What about if I started a DROS for a semiautomatic centerfire rifle on 6/29/2021 (before July 1st 2021). On 7/5/2021, I start a DROS application for a semiautomatic pistol. Am I breaking the new law? Does the 1 in 30 timer starts on July 1st or does it retroactively counting applications before 7/1.