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  • morrcarr67
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2010
    • 15039

    Looking at getting an FFL, but not for resale

    I am setting up a Manufacture's rep group business and I'm working with a few small firearms manufactures to be their rep. I'm thinking it would be good to have an 01 FFL to get samples sent to me. The samples will be sent back or maybe sold to a customer with a retail business.

    With that in mind, how much of the CA BS paperwork would I have to file? I plan on working out of the house and no one will ever come to my house to look at the firearms. Since I don't plan on selling the firearms (at retail) I receive would the home zoning be an issue? I'm not zoned for retail.
    Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

    Originally posted by Erion929
  • #2
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19769

    01 is "Dealer" and used to come with a storefront requirement. Maybe an 06 would be a better fit.

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    • #3
      shootsocal_dave
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Sep 2016
      • 1447

      I started my business our of my Garage as a 07. The storefront requirement is a city thing not a fed thing.
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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 15039

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        01 is "Dealer" and used to come with a storefront requirement. Maybe an 06 would be a better fit.

        https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/...-licenses-ffls
        An 06 is an ammo manufacturer. Not anything that I'm going to be doing.

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        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15039

          Originally posted by shootsocal_dave
          I started my business our of my Garage as a 07. The storefront requirement is a city thing not a fed thing.
          I hadn't thought about an 07, but I think that's a good idea.

          Since I won't be transferring firearms to none FFL's what of the CA specific things can I skip?

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          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

          Originally posted by Erion929

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          • #6
            mmaaka
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            • Sep 2018
            • 242

            CHECK YOUR CITY FIRST. YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN A BUSINESS LICENSE FIRST
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            • #7
              morrcarr67
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 15039

              Originally posted by mmaaka
              CHECK YOUR CITY FIRST. YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN A BUSINESS LICENSE FIRST
              Will do.

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              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                taperxz
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2010
                • 19395

                Originally posted by morrcarr67
                Will do.

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                • #9
                  morrcarr67
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 15039

                  What's a CFD?

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                  Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                  Originally posted by Erion929

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                  • #10
                    ronlglock
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2011
                    • 2670

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                    • #11
                      morrcarr67
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 15039

                      Ron, thank you very much. This was the information I was looking for. I currently have my C&R and COE. I just got off the phone with the city and it looks like it won't be a problem as I won't be having anyone come to the house to look at or buy the firearms that I get as samples/evaluations.

                      I did mention that I might be selling those samples to my customers who would be other FFL holders and that the manufactures would be doing the billing. They told me that I should also get a sellers permit just in case they need one. Since they are free I don't see a reason not too.

                      Time to start looking for another safe.

                      Again, thank you for your time and insight.
                      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                      Originally posted by Erion929

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                      • #12
                        ronlglock
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2011
                        • 2670

                        Yeah - resale license for any income because you may have to remit sales taxes. Also many manufacturers and distributors require it before they will ship anything to you.
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                        • #13
                          GoingQuiet
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 2731

                          If you're a manufacturer rep it would be a good idea and make your life easier. What you're saying is entirely reasonable and within the realm of licensure.
                          GoingQuiet.com, 07/02 FFL
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                          • #14
                            FluorideInMyWater
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 1840

                            i'm sorta in the same boat of conversation.
                            i'd like to get an 01. I wanted to do it out of my house with internet sales, so no "store-front" so "Zoned Residential Single Family Dwelling". And then I rent so i have to check the box "rented/leased" for #15. then a YES for #16 (internet sales....maybe gunshows).....
                            then this is were my concern is. #17...
                            I don't know how they judge each criteria. What happens, or what difference does it make if you check YES for "intend to use your license ONLY TO acquire firearms to enhance your personal collection"? is it still an FFL01 or does it have a certian "designation" about only buying and not selling?

                            I really want to make ammo. but to get wholesale catalogs/contacts/distributors lists & names, you have to have at least an 01. an 06 is more money to get setup than an 01. i think for an 01 you need
                            a business license (is that the same as reseller's license?)
                            a business phone number
                            a fax number
                            a regulation safe

                            now, i'm in Las Vegas so i might be less restricted (doubt it) but i'm guessing the steps are the same. i don't want to send in an application because im missing something.

                            Thanks!
                            No longer FluorideInMyWater. (California)
                            now the infamous "CalciumDepositsInMyWater" (Cancun)

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                            • #15
                              ronlglock
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2011
                              • 2670

                              Originally posted by FluorideInMyWater
                              i think for an 01 you need
                              a business license (is that the same as reseller's license?)
                              a business phone number
                              a fax number
                              a regulation safe

                              Thanks!
                              Business licenses come from the city or county and allow you to run a business. A resale license comes from the state and is what you need to collect and pay sales tax.

                              The former has an annual fee usually based on gross revenue. The latter should be free.
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                              NRA/USCCA/DOJ instructor, NRA CRSO, Journalist

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