M1919A4 - still ok to DROS

[ugimports]

We can still DROS these as long guns, correct? Or is/was that the incorrect way to DROS them?

Thanks

[acespawnshop]

IRRC- Longgun DROS- 4473 OTHER.

[ugimports]

IRRC- Longgun DROS- 4473 OTHER.

Thanks. I wasn't sure if I missed something that changed this. I think that's how we ran our last one a few years ago.

[EBR Works]

No. Must be in A6 configuration with stock (no flash hider) to avoid AW status created by CA AB-88. I had a conversation with Jason Davis a few weeks ago about this specific subject.
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[ugimports]

No. Must be in A6 configuration with stock (no flash hider) to avoid AW status created by CA AB-88. I had a conversation with Jason Davis a few weeks ago about this specific subject.
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Damn that must be what I thought I was missing..

[sass2924]

No. Must be in A6 configuration with stock (no flash hider) to avoid AW status created by CA AB-88. I had a conversation with Jason Davis a few weeks ago about this specific subject.
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I had the same conversation with Jason on the 23rd and we came to the conclusion we could dros in the a4 configuration.

[SkyHawk]

No. Must be in A6 configuration with stock (no flash hider) to avoid AW status created by CA AB-88. I had a conversation with Jason Davis a few weeks ago about this specific subject.
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I had the same conversation with Jason on the 23rd and we came to the conclusion we could dros in the a4 configuration.

I would love to know more about the discussions. Several of us 1919 owners are in the breeze waiting for some guidance. My argument is there is no feature on a 1919A4 or A6 that would require AW reg. Trigger hand grip is not a pistol grip, as in there is no way you could hold a 1919 by that grip like a pistol with one hand nor was that ever the design or intent.

And the 'shroud' is not a shroud designed to protect the hand, it is a jacket designed to prevent the barrel from getting so hot that rounds start cooking off when chambered. It is a heat sink designed to carry away heat from the barrel, into the jacket. Per the designer.

Only an idiot or hero would touch that shroud bare handed. Which is why the army issued asbestos gloves to the crew in case they ever did have to grab the gun by the jacket.

[acespawnshop]

Ours was a while ago. Thanks for the insight.

[Spyder]

Yep. I bought an A6 stock for mine back during those talks in case I needed it, but am still unsure which direction I need to go with it.

[sass2924]

[sigstroker]

Ha, so that stupid "burn the hand" language came back to bite them.

[JasonDavis]

To clarify, there was some initial concern that the Department of Justice may interpret the Barrel Jacket to be a shroud without supporting documentation demonstrating otherwise. Upon further investigation, the Field Manual appears to, in my opinion, provide the necessary documentation.

it is my opinion that the language "[t]o avoid serious burns, care must be exercised that the barrel and jacket are not touched with bare hands. For moving the gun or disassembling a hot barrel, the asbestos mittens should be usedheat shield that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the shooter to fire the weapon with one hand and grasp the firearm over the barrel with the other hand without burning the shooter's hand...."

I have no clarification from the Department of Justice as to whether they would agree or opine otherwise.

[sass2924]

Thanks Jason

[Experimentalist]

Thanks for the information everyone.

Apologies if I'm posting in the wrong thread, but it appears that the capacity to accept the ammunition from a position outside the handgrip may in itself be a feature that triggers assault weapon status.

Any insights here?

Thanks.

[ugimports]

Thanks for the information everyone.

Apologies if I'm posting in the wrong thread, but it appears that the capacity to accept the ammunition from a position outside the handgrip may in itself be a feature that triggers assault weapon status.

Any insights here?

Thanks.

Where do you see that? Are you referring to a handgun or a rifle?