Franklin Armory Title 1

[taperxz]

Not legal.

I know you can’t make a pistol out of a rifle but can you point me to the regs?

Not doubting you! Just curious

Edit: I noticed that in the OPs article, Franklin mentioned how IT NEVER had a stock on it so I’m inclined to agree with the verbiage they used in the article

[taperxz]

So, can a pistol go AOW with a rifle length upper? Knowing it can’t go back to a pistol?

[EBR Works]

IIRC, the ATF will not approve a Form 1 or 2 of an AOW if the resulting configuration is equal to or greater than 26”.

[franklinarmory]

They can if it is concealable or actually concealed.

[taperxz]

They can if it is concealable or actually concealed.

[franklinarmory]

Somehow, I think I'm being challenged. I'll respectfully present my argument.

* The XO-26 is generally NOT an AOW since it is over 26".
* ATF provided an exception for concealed firearms over 26". Those firearms would still be AOWs subject to NFA regulation.
* If the firearm can be subject to NFA regulation, it can generally be registered in the NFRTR. (The prime exception would be civilan registration of post 86 machine guns.)

So it is obvious that an AOW application of a firearm over 26" would need to overtly state their intent to use the firearm concealed. I would bet that someone somewhere came to the erroneous conclusion you couldn't register the firearm because they didn't provide all of the necessary information in their Form 1.

By the way, Jason and I converse on a daily basis, and you wouldn't need Jason to come to this conclusion. Submit a form 1 and see what happens!

[taperxz]

Somehow, I think I'm being challenged. I'll respectfully present my argument.

* The XO-26 is generally NOT an AOW since it is over 26".
* ATF provided an exception for concealed firearms over 26". Those firearms would still be AOWs subject to NFA regulation.
* If the firearm can be subject to NFA regulation, it can generally be registered in the NFRTR. (The prime exception would be civilan registration of post 86 machine guns.)

So it is obvious that an AOW application of a firearm over 26" would need to overtly state their intent to use the firearm concealed. I would bet that someone somewhere came to the erroneous conclusion you couldn't register the firearm because they didn't provide all of the necessary information in their Form 1.

By the way, Jason and I converse on a daily basis, and you wouldn't need Jason to come to this conclusion. Submit a form 1 and see what happens!

[taperxz]

[RHSth4]

Franklin Armory is really working to help all you guys out. Good for them for working around the laws and getting you guys stuff you've been wanting.

[franklinarmory]

I wanted to ask if any of you have seen this before:

"Important Notice: The DROS Entry System (DES) will be down for maintenance from 11:55 PM on Saturday, November 2, 2019 to 5:00 AM on Sunday, November 3, 2019. Please contact the Customer Support Center at 855-365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov during normal business hours if you have any questions or comments concerning the DES."

Is this normal, or are they actually moving forward?

Our attorneys have been pushing on their end, and reports concluded that CADOJ was going to change it. The question is when? Maybe we will find out Sunday. ....or maybe this is a common notice.

[BONECUTTER]

I wanted to ask if any of you have seen this before:

"Important Notice: The DROS Entry System (DES) will be down for maintenance from 11:55 PM on Saturday, November 2, 2019 to 5:00 AM on Sunday, November 3, 2019. Please contact the Customer Support Center at 855-365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov during normal business hours if you have any questions or comments concerning the DES."

Is this normal, or are they actually moving forward?

Our attorneys have been pushing on their end, and reports concluded that CADOJ was going to change it. The question is when? Maybe we will find out Sunday. ....or maybe this is a common notice.

Fairly common DES notice.

[9mmContagion]

I wanted to ask if any of you have seen this before:

"Important Notice: The DROS Entry System (DES) will be down for maintenance from 11:55 PM on Saturday, November 2, 2019 to 5:00 AM on Sunday, November 3, 2019. Please contact the Customer Support Center at 855-365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov during normal business hours if you have any questions or comments concerning the DES."

Is this normal, or are they actually moving forward?

Our attorneys have been pushing on their end, and reports concluded that CADOJ was going to change it. The question is when? Maybe we will find out Sunday. ....or maybe this is a common notice.

[taperxz]

I wanted to ask if any of you have seen this before:

"Important Notice: The DROS Entry System (DES) will be down for maintenance from 11:55 PM on Saturday, November 2, 2019 to 5:00 AM on Sunday, November 3, 2019. Please contact the Customer Support Center at 855-365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov during normal business hours if you have any questions or comments concerning the DES."

Is this normal, or are they actually moving forward?

Our attorneys have been pushing on their end, and reports concluded that CADOJ was going to change it. The question is when? Maybe we will find out Sunday. ....or maybe this is a common notice.

Yes I have seen this. Are you and Jason trying to tease us?

[taperxz]

I wanted to ask if any of you have seen this before:

"Important Notice: The DROS Entry System (DES) will be down for maintenance from 11:55 PM on Saturday, November 2, 2019 to 5:00 AM on Sunday, November 3, 2019. Please contact the Customer Support Center at 855-365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov during normal business hours if you have any questions or comments concerning the DES."

Is this normal, or are they actually moving forward?

Our attorneys have been pushing on their end, and reports concluded that CADOJ was going to change it. The question is when? Maybe we will find out Sunday. ....or maybe this is a common notice.

If you are teasing us, I will be placing a large order with you and still want your 17WSM platform

[Alpertbrown]

Did they update the dros system?