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  • #61
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by Tyke8319
    Sorry...should have made it clearer that I would be the receiving dealer.
    Originally posted by edgerly779
    You were answered as receiving dealer. In post #54
    The roster exemption needs to be noted....
    Originally posted by acespawnshop
    Too many back and forths on this thread. My bad.
    Aces, any help for Tyke on how to input this into DROS?
    - Rich

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    • #62
      BagelBites
      Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 294

      Originally posted by Cokebottle

      Aces, any help for Tyke on how to input this into DROS?
      Just gonna jump in here. The transaction type is Exempt Handgun Sale. DOJ wants you to include "interstate intra-familial transfer" in the comments box. Make copies of the out of state ID and letter stating gift and keep with DROS paperwork. That's it.

      Just call the DES helpline for confirmation.

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      • #63
        acespawnshop
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jun 2012
        • 2852

        Exempt handgun sale. We keep a record of the letter showing it was a gift with the ID it came with. Letter needs to say make model and serial for us to be sufficient enough to prove this particular gun was an interstate interfamily transfer. Other than that that’s about. It. Call us if you have a question. We do these pretty frequently it seems.
        Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
        Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
        Or call 626-968-5900

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        • #64
          maxit
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 298

          gift handgun to Nevada grandson

          I never thought I would have to ask; consider myself lucky, one of my offspring likes shooting sport.
          Well he lives in NV and I am in CA.
          He comes by every month and shoots with me.
          Can I gift it to him and have him do the Nics in NV?

          much obliged,

          Max

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          • #65
            BAJ475
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2014
            • 5200

            Originally posted by maxit
            I never thought I would have to ask; consider myself lucky, one of my offspring likes shooting sport.
            Well he lives in NV and I am in CA.
            He comes by every month and shoots with me.
            Can I gift it to him and have him do the Nics in NV?

            much obliged,

            Max
            You can gift it to him but, under federal law, it must be transferred to him through a NV FFL. You can either take the firearm to the NV FFL or ship it to the NV FFL. You would need to check to see if the NV FFL will accept the firearm shipped from a non FFL and, if not, you would need to find a local CA FFL to ship it for you. If he has a NV Concealed carry permit issued on or after July 1, 2011, he will be exempt from the NICS check but must still complete the 4473 form at the NV FFL.

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            • #66
              ronlglock
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2011
              • 2670

              interstate intrafamilial handgun transfer

              Originally posted by BAJ475
              You can gift it to him but, under federal law, it must be transferred to him through a NV FFL. You can either take the firearm to the NV FFL or ship it to the NV FFL. You would need to check to see if the NV FFL will accept the firearm shipped from a non FFL and, if not, you would need to find a local CA FFL to ship it for you. If he has a NV Concealed carry permit issued on or after July 1, 2011, he will be exempt from the NICS check but must still complete the 4473 form at the NV FFL.
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              • #67
                Librarian
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                • Oct 2005
                • 44680

                One hopes neither CA nor Federal LE witness the crime.
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                • #68
                  BAJ475
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 5200

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  One hopes neither CA nor Federal LE witness the crime.
                  Actually, because the transfer is between a grandfather and grandson, there may not be a CA violation. I do not know how NV would treat such a transfer.
                  But to answer the question there is no such thing as a lawful parking lot PPT where the parties are not residents of the same state. So it does not work because it is a federal offense.

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                  • #69
                    maxit
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 298

                    intra family out of state x fer

                    got it
                    much obliged,
                    max

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                    • #70
                      Jimmy2Gunz
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 3

                      This may be a stupid question. Can you do inter familial transfer with in-laws?

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                      • #71
                        edgerly779
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 19871

                        ^^^ No many posts on this they are not family in this regard. Vertically only father son, mother daughter,grandfather grandson etc . No aunts,uncles, brothers, sisters, inlaws.

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                        • #72
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by ronlglock
                          Originally posted by BAJ475
                          Originally posted by maxit
                          I never thought I would have to ask; consider myself lucky, one of my offspring likes shooting sport.
                          Well he lives in NV and I am in CA.
                          He comes by every month and shoots with me.
                          Can I gift it to him and have him do the Nics in NV?

                          much obliged,

                          Max
                          You can gift it to him but, under federal law, it must be transferred to him through a NV FFL. You can either take the firearm to the NV FFL or ship it to the NV FFL. You would need to check to see if the NV FFL will accept the firearm shipped from a non FFL and, if not, you would need to find a local CA FFL to ship it for you. If he has a NV Concealed carry permit issued on or after July 1, 2011, he will be exempt from the NICS check but must still complete the 4473 form at the NV FFL.
                          I am not doubting you on this, but how does that work with parking lot PPT’s since no 4473 is filed?
                          Federal laws prohibits the transfer of firearms between residents of different States, unless a FFL is utilized. [18 USC 922(a)(3)&(5)]
                          There is no intra-familial or gift exemption to the Federal laws.
                          Failure to utilize a FFL equates to a Federal felony for everyone involved with the transfer. [18 USC 924(a)(1)(D)]

                          Therefore, the firearm needs to be transferred through a NV FFL dealer.

                          Starting 01-02-2020, cash & carry type transfers are no longer legal in NV.
                          In order to be NV legal, non-exempt firearm transfers must be done through NV FFL dealer. [NRS 202.2547]
                          Failure to utilize a NV FFL dealer equates to first time being a gross misdemeanor and any subsequent times being a category C Felony. [NRS 202.2549]
                          Exemptions to this are: Transfers of antique firearms, transfers to a LE agency or a LEO, transfers between immediate family members, transfers to an admininstrator or executor of an estate upon the death of the owner of the firearms, and conditional temporary transfers (loans). [NRS 202.2548]
                          Last edited by Quiet; 07-15-2020, 2:38 AM.
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                          • #73
                            ronlglock
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2011
                            • 2670

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Federal laws prohibits the transfer of firearms between residents of different States, unless a FFL is utilized. [18 USC 922(a)(3)&(5)]
                            There is no intra-familial or gift exemption to the Federal laws.
                            Failure to utilize a FFL equates to a Federal felony for everyone involved with the transfer. [18 USC 924(a)(1)(D)]
                            Is the attached form what the recipient sends to the state instead of performing a DROS?

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                            • #74
                              edgerly779
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 19871

                              ^^Yes, but Only if both residents in same state.

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