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  • #31
    Librarian
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    • Oct 2005
    • 44689

    Originally posted by Featureless
    Well apparently THAT was a stupid idea. In the future I'll stick to keeping myself California compliant and refrain on commenting on other legal issues I know nothing about.
    That's OK - even the CA-DOJ frequently gives the advice you offered, as well as some number of CA FFLs. Forgetting about Federal law seems a widespread error.
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    • #32
      Garv
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      • Apr 2014
      • 9075

      Originally posted by Featureless
      Well apparently THAT was a stupid idea. In the future I'll stick to keeping myself California compliant and refrain on commenting on other legal issues I know nothing about.
      You weren't trolling the new guy?

      OK, I take back half the bad things I was thinking of saying but did not.
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      • #33
        BABUSA
        Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 245

        He's in Tracy...NorCal

        1 in 30 does not apply for ppt

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        • #34
          kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          Originally posted by BABUSA
          ...
          1 in 30 does not apply for ppt
          True, but not relevant since what is being discussed isn't a CA PPT.
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          • #35
            9mmrevolver
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1477

            I’ve talked to several ffl’s regarding this in the last month. Either they say it’s illegal for them to transfer becuase it’s not on the roster or they say have it shipped to your door and sent doj 19 buck with a peice of paper. The latter doesn’t seem to care even after I tell them it would break federal law. There is only one shop I’ve found that will do the transfer correctly in my area

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            • #36
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              They can call the CA DOJ and ask and get the answer as to how to do it. You could also ask if they know how to do roster exempt single action revolvers of a given size or C&R firearms.
              Kemasa.
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              • #37
                Cokebottle
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                • Oct 2009
                • 32373

                Originally posted by mmaaka
                ok with that said. can my dad in Colorado just send his off roster weapon to my ffl and what takes place in that matter or does he have to be here as well with a ca id
                Given that you just said that you want to BUY one, and when told "no", you change to getting one from Dad, I'm gonna' go with "no" simply because the intrafamilial transfer must be a gift. You can not legally send the money to anyone to buy a gun for you.
                - Rich

                Originally posted by dantodd
                A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                • #38
                  Cokebottle
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                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  And mmaaka, this is exactly the same question you asked here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1475117, with 'mom' instead of 'dad'.
                  But mom is in AZ and dad is in CO
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #39
                    Cokebottle
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    That's OK - even the CA-DOJ frequently gives the advice you offered, as well as some number of CA FFLs. Forgetting about Federal law seems a widespread error.
                    Likewise, I've had a number of FFLs out of state insist that they can legally sell me a long gun cash and carry.
                    They accept without argument when I tell them that the State of Commiefornia says otherwise unless it's a C&R.
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                    • #40
                      kemasa
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 10706

                      Originally posted by Cokebottle
                      ...
                      I'm gonna' go with "no" simply because the intrafamilial transfer must be a gift. You can not legally send the money to anyone to buy a gun for you.
                      Where does it say that an intra-familial transfer has to be a gift?

                      There are two different issues in regards to giving someone money to buy a gun for you. The first is if they fill out a 4473 as they wouldn't be the actual buyer. That can be avoided in a private sale in a free state. The second would be that they would be acting as an unlicensed gun dealer and you can't around that.
                      Last edited by kemasa; 09-11-2018, 7:52 PM.
                      Kemasa.
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                      • #41
                        acespawnshop
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                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2852

                        Originally posted by BABUSA
                        He's in Tracy...NorCal

                        1 in 30 does not apply for ppt
                        Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
                        Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
                        Or call 626-968-5900

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                        • #42
                          mmaaka
                          Member
                          • Sep 2018
                          • 242

                          FFL interfamilstate transfer.

                          is there a local FFL here in TRACY,LIVERMORE,PLEASNTON DUBLIN AREA that accepts delivery not from a FFL I have two firearms im getting from my mother and her FFL won't ship to CA in fear of braking federal law. she lives in small town of AZ and locals there are not assuring them selfs of the laws here. and I keep reading of how it needs to be from FFL TO FFL then I see threads that say she can send it to my FFL with the proper documentations. please help
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                          • #43
                            edgerly779
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            She does not need an ffl to ship to ffl here. More fud. Where are you getting this fud from. What are the firearms and where are they coming from?
                            Last edited by edgerly779; 09-12-2018, 12:07 PM.

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                            • #44
                              acespawnshop
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                              • Jun 2012
                              • 2852

                              Bruh. This is pretty much the same question and post you made here https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1475989
                              Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
                              Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
                              Or call 626-968-5900

                              Follow us on Facebook @acesjewelryandloan Need Cash Fast? Get a loan on your firearms here!

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                              • #45
                                Gryff
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • May 2006
                                • 12693

                                California does not require the sender to be an FFL. The recipient must be an FFL for a family transfer crossing state lines.

                                She should include a letter stating that this is a gift from herself to her son. I have seen some California FFLs that want a copy of the sender's drivers license, but I don't know if this is a legal requirement.

                                Elite Arms in Tracy has done interstate intra-familial transfers before. Just be crystal clear with them that this is a cross-border transfer...not one between two Californians.
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