interstate intrafamilial handgun transfer

[mmaaka]

this may be a noob question but I dont know the facts. I want to buy a off roster Glock 42 from a seller in LA but I live in the Bay Area. are transfer legal if shipped to my local FFL?

[kemasa]

this may be a noob question but I dont know the facts. I want to buy a off roster Glock 42 from a seller in LA but I live in the Bay Area. are transfer legal if shipped to my local FFL?

No, can't be shipped, has to be transferred as a CA PPT, unless it is you parent/child/grandparent/grandchild.

[shootsocal_dave]

No, can't be shipped, has to be transferred as a CA PPT, unless it is you parent/child/grandparent/grandchild.

Just to build on what Kemasa means, PPT is a face to face transfer between two, private party, California residents with CA ID/DL

[mmaaka]

ok with that said. can my dad in Colorado just send his off roster weapon to my ffl and what takes place in that matter or does he have to be here as well with a ca id

[Librarian]

ok with that said. can my dad in Colorado just send his off roster weapon to my ffl and what takes place in that matter or does he have to be here as well with a ca id

That's an 'interstate intrafamilial transfer'. See the sticky - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1058641

Short answer, yes CO-dad may transfer off-Roster to CA-son, in person (no CA id needed from him) or shipped to CA FFL.

[Yodaman]

[mmaaka]

family interstate transfer.

ok I keep making threads here sorry. but more clarify my question. since I cant ship a off roster firearm form another state from a PPT.
my dad in Colorado has two firearms he wants to give to me as a gift but he lives in CO is it as simple him filling out the proper paperwork in his state at his local FFL and then that FFL ships the firearms to my local FFL and do my end and waiting period here ? and there both off roster hand guns

[BONECUTTER]

Does he already have these guns or planning on going to buy them with the intention of gifting them to you?

[LeadFarmer74]

OP both guns must go through an FFL on your end. Your dad can bring the guns to Ca and meet at an FFL and do the transfer or use an FFL to FFL transfer. 1 in 30 does apply.

[mmaaka]

Does he already have these guns or planning on going to buy them with the intention of gifting them to you?

he already owns them

[mmaaka]

already owns them

[edgerly779]

He can ship direct to ffl here. FUD that he has to use ffl to ship. Lots of posts on this. Lead farmer half right

[BONECUTTER]

He can also ship them to a CA FFL directly with a letter and a copy of his state issued ID.

[Cokebottle]

That is legal, BUT before he ships, make sure that you scout out and confirm two important things with your receiving FFL:
1 - Do they understand that California law provides a roster exemption for intrafamilial transfers?
2 - Do they release at 30 days should your DROS go "undetermined"?


Undetermined DROS has been a BIG problem lately. Turners and a lot of other FFLs won't release on "undetermined" even though it is not a denial, it is not a delay, and it IS perfectly legal to release.
DOJ has been swamped with AW registrations and VolRegs, and we are hearing about "undetermined" DROS results every week.

[Cokebottle]

He can ship direct to ffl here. FUD that he has to use ffl to ship. Lots of posts on this. Lead farmer half right

Correct.
Some local FFLs require the shipping party to be an FFL and in the CFLC system.


The main problem with shipping though, is that FedEx and UPS will not accept firearms, and a private individual can not ship handguns via USPS, while an FFL can.
IF he is able to get UPS to accept the shipment, it will have to be shipped overnight, and from the terminal... not the "UPS Store"