Once Saved Always Saved ....?

[760practicalshooter]

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’*” (Matt. 7:21–23)

Sproul, R. C. (2010). Can I Be Sure I’m Saved? (Vol. 7, p. 2). Lake Mary, FL: Reformation Trust Publishing.

[pbsmind]

Negative.

I Bible studied with Mormon & Jehovah Witness years ago. The latter gave me free NWT which I use to present. My wife uses NKJV and we cross reference when we read on sabbath so I'm not misquoting the scriptures cited . You can read and compare them with your version and see if they deviate from the Word.

I'll buy you a Bible so you don't have to worry about it.

[Doheny]

Negative.

I Bible studied with Mormon & Jehovah Witness years ago. The latter gave me free NWT which I use to present. My wife uses NKJV and we cross reference when we read on sabbath so I'm not misquoting the scriptures cited . You can read and compare them with your version and see if they deviate from the Word.

Ok, as pointed out in another post, the NWT is considered a flawed version by many and you won't find it any true Christian churches (JW and Mormonism don't fall into that category).

All for Him.


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[Barang]

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’*” (Matt. 7:21–23)

Sproul, R. C. (2010). Can I Be Sure I’m Saved? (Vol. 7, p. 2). Lake Mary, FL: Reformation Trust Publishing.

Truly tragic for those professing christians and thought saved but the Lord will say on that day, "And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

I'll buy you a Bible so you don't have to worry about it.

Great and thanks, PM inbound for my address. Just Kidding

Ok, as pointed out in another post, the NWT is considered a flawed version by many and you won't find it any true Christian churches (JW and Mormonism don't fall into that category).

All for Him.

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Understand.

[760practicalshooter]

This can open up a can of worms, but hey, what doesn't right?

I don't believe in saved once, always saved. The continual sin after repentance is not "saved."

Acts 3:19, "Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord"

Repent - feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin.

A person repenting from sin means that they will NOT sin again. If one is saved but goes back and do sin, that means they haven't truly repented. So, their not saved...at least in my opinion. To repent is to turn away from the old ways.

I have to disagree with this^.
1 John 1:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 John 1:9
New International Version (NIV)
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.


Can of worms right?

[Barang]

Mark 13: 22 - For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

[Doheny]

I know that majority of christians believe this but I'm in the minority that doesn't. For a long time I thought I was alone or one of the few and finally, I saw one pastor that had a subject about this. John Hagee is his name, so now I watch his sermon every week. I'll post verses later.

To help clear this up, I think you need to tell us what you mean by "saved." For many (if not most) Christians, it means that we've accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.

How are you using the term?


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[Barang]

To help clear this up, I think you need to tell us what you mean by "saved." For many (if not most) Christians, it means that we've accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.

How are you using the term?

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A person accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. A person who repented from his/her sins and made 180 degrees from it and living a new life and new personality.

[madsend81]

I believe that we can receive, in this life, a witness that we have been forgiven of our sins, but if the saying that "once saved, always saved" is true, then why, after forgiving the harlot, did Christ say to her, "Go, and sin no more" John 8:11 (KJV)? [emphasis added].

I believe that once we have accepted Christ as our savior, repented of our sins (which means to change, forsake sin, no more have a desire to sin), and receive forgiveness of our sins, we still have the admonition to "sin no more" or we will find ourselves under condemnation again. We are constantly subject to temptation and sin. Indeed in our human state, we are corruptible beings and we must constantly be on guard such that we don't sin again.

[760practicalshooter]

Where I was heading next.

I believe that we can receive, in this life, a witness that we have been forgiven of our sins, but if the saying that "once saved, always saved" is true, then why, after forgiving the harlot, did Christ say to her, "Go, and sin no more" John 8:11 (KJV)? [emphasis added].

I believe that once we have accepted Christ as our savior, repented of our sins (which means to change, forsake sin, no more have a desire to sin), and receive forgiveness of our sins, we still have the admonition to "sin no more" or we will find ourselves under condemnation again. We are constantly subject to temptation and sin. Indeed in our human state, we are corruptible beings and we must constantly be on guard such that we don't sin again.

[Bill Carson]

Mormon's and JW's are christian cults which makes them not christian. The NWT is the translation of heresy. Hagee is wack. Once saved always saved.

[760practicalshooter]

Since we all were made in God's likeness, and he wrote his laws in/on our hearts, we all must be able to accept, and receive Gods gift of salvation through his Son Jesus Christ.

[madsend81]

Mormon's and JW's are christian cults which makes them not christian. The NWT is the translation of heresy. Hagee is wack. Once saved always saved.

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[Bill Carson]

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Madsend81 we are going back and forth in 2 different threads. I will just say this. Just as you were wrong in the other thread you are also wrong about the NWT.

[sonofeugene]

Yes, once saved, always saved. God will not forsake you.


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"He" forsakes you when you were first born and completely innocent.