So, when does life begin?

[CVShooter]

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

[CVShooter]

? And one who sows discord among brethren.


Just for fun though? since every life and soul is precious and spilling blood is an abomination? we can all agree to be consistent and have the same position on execution that we do on abortion, right? 🫣

Yea, I had some pastors in the family (all dead, last I heard) that used to say similar stuff about the death penalty. Got to hand it to them -- at least they were consistent.

The law should be consistent and fair. I certainly prefer liberty & tolerance over firm rules that make one person submit to the values and beliefs of another.

For me & my opinions, I have no such rule about consistency. I can prefer apples to oranges, oranges to pears and pears to apples. Consistent logic need not apply. Most people do too, they just won't admit it or don't even know it. The mind is great at creating strange, back-fit logic to fit pre-determined beliefs.

[Wordupmybrotha]

and there is no room for true brotherly love to reside in a heart that is so prepared to judge.

Aren't you judging the people in this thread?

[2761377]

Aren't you judging the people in this thread?

he laid out exactly what he's doing-

" The mind is great at creating strange, back-fit logic to fit pre-determined beliefs."

[BAJ475]

Life begins once the egg is fertilized.

So are you saying that the sperm is not alive or that the egg is not alive? Is the growing leaf on a tree no alive?

[BAJ475]

At the first division of a cell into more than one. That comes after fertilization, but is the first sign of a biological process acting autonomously, being life itself - it doesn't need to be self-aware that it is doing it to be considered life, any more than a tree is self aware from the first shoot out of a seed.

It's obvious life, and destroying anything after that first cell division intentionally is murder.

Just following the science.

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BS. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice of forethought. So, when you are pointing a gun at me in order to rob me and I intentionally shoot you resulting in your death, the death of a human being, I have not committed murder, even though I have effectively destroyed you, because my killing of you was not unlawful because what is unlawful is determined by the laws of the jurisdiction and defending myself from your deadly force attack is lawful in all 50 states. When I spray Round Up on weeds, an obvious living thing, have I committed murder? What about all of the insects I spray with an insecticide? Is my fishing license a murder license? How about my hunting license? What about the police officer who shoots and kills a person holding a knife to your throat? In these scenarios are you suggesting the we "follow the science" and, if so, how does science provide an answer?