So, when does life begin?

[Marauder2003]

I don?t follow the arguments much. First time I have heard this take.

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[DaveInOroValley]

I read the article. I believe that at the time the Bible was written that those that wrote the passages wouldn’t have even comprehended the act of what we know as abortion. Hence they wouldn’t of had anticipated writing something more in depth than what they did. Just my .02

[Subotai]

Life begins once the egg is fertilized.

[The Gleam]

At the first division of a cell into more than one. That comes after fertilization, but is the first sign of a biological process acting autonomously, being life itself - it doesn't need to be self-aware that it is doing it to be considered life, any more than a tree is self aware from the first shoot out of a seed.

It's obvious life, and destroying anything after that first cell division intentionally is murder.

Just following the science.

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[The Gleam]

I read the article. I believe that at the time the Bible was written that those that wrote the passages wouldn?t have even comprehended the act of what we know as abortion. Hence they wouldn?t of had anticipated writing something more in depth than what they did. Just my .02

Sure they did - it's noted in the 10 Commandments. Thou shall not kill.

But for more specific references, descriptions of abortifacient medications, pessaries, and the act of abortion are peppered throughout ancient medical literature and about the same time the torah/bible/old testament was written.

Science not withstanding of course, because even from the dawn of time they knew it was wrong to punch a pregnant woman in the stomach as it would likely kill the baby. Now why might an unwilling father punch a pregnant woman in the stomach if he didn't know that he was in fact trying to kill her unborn child?

(As if unwanted pregnancies didn't happen 5,000 years ago. You can bet they did.)

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[Barang]

Exodus 21:22-23 nkjv
22 ?If men [a]fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that [b]she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman?s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life,

Psalm 139:16 nkjv
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them.

Jeremiah 1:5 nkjv
?Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified[a] you;
I [b]ordained you a prophet to the nations.?

[Kokopelli]

The scientific definition of life is, “cells that reproduce and grow.”

[Garand Hunter]

Great response Barang ! I was almost ready to post those scriptures and others.

Psalm 1

[jorgi23]

We are one Generation from the extinction of liberals through out the USA, lets not stop it, Allow mother nature to takes its course. protect your kids, God Bless

[hermosabeach]

I think we can all agree that we have a much better understanding of science today then when the Book of the Dead was written by another religion or when the Bible was written.


The moral question I have is about education.
If a young girl is tricked / pressured / forced to have sex and gets pregnant, is society better and is the girl better if forced to have a child at 14 year old?



If a woman is raped or if the embryo has signs of a defect - Down syndrome or deformed scull, are they better off being required to have the child?


My cousin was pregnant with her 3rd child and the tests revealed a hole in the scull. Doctors said if the baby made it to birth and did not die before birth, it would be, at best, severely retarded. So they shorted and had another healthy child.

[flyer898]

Culturally there is some variation on when life begins. Some asian cultures put the time as 30 days after birth.

[RandyD]

I read the article. I believe that at the time the Bible was written that those that wrote the passages wouldn?t have even comprehended the act of what we know as abortion. Hence they wouldn?t of had anticipated writing something more in depth than what they did. Just my .02

Remembering that God is the actual author of the Bible. He knew the future before the beginning of time. He knew ages ago what we are doing now. The Holy Spirit has let us all know that abortion is wrong.

[RandyD]

I read the article. I believe that at the time the Bible was written that those that wrote the passages wouldn?t have even comprehended the act of what we know as abortion. Hence they wouldn?t of had anticipated writing something more in depth than what they did. Just my .02

Remembering that God is the actual author of the Bible. He knew the future before the beginning of time. He knew ages ago what we are doing now. The Holy Spirit has let us all know that abortion is wrong.

[Barang]

Remembering that God is the actual author of the Bible. He knew the future before the beginning of time. He knew ages ago what we are doing now. The Holy Spirit has let us all know that abortion is wrong.

imagine mary was pro abortion and murdering Jesus in the womb! let that sink in, pro abort "christians."

[Citadelgrad87]

Not for any gotcha moment, but I think it begins at conception.

Any other event other than birth is a construct. "More" alive, like "more pregnant", is stupid.

Either it's the moment of conception, when it's no longer an unfertilized potential, but a complete being, or birth.

But birth seems idiotic, if I cut open a woman in labor on her way to the hospital, removed and killed the contents of her womb, then sewed her up, I certainly killed a human being.

Anything else is mental gymnastics.