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  • #46
    Sailormilan2
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3452

    Originally posted by CVShooter
    Total free love then? Well, maybe there's something to look forward to after all.
    Well, most versions of the 6 Laws of Adam, and the 7 Laws of Noah, ban adultery and/or incest. Nowhere in the 613 Laws of the Torah, given at Sinai, does it outright ban what the Christian Church calls "fornication". There's a sin of "adultery" narrowly defined as "a man" and someone else's "wife". There is a minor rule of seducing a virgin, with a proscribed penalty of marriage, or paying the bride price(dowry).
    Hagar was in essence Abraham's concubine(a concubine is essentially a mistress) and the Bible says the Abraham did all the God commanded.
    Bilhah and Zilpah became Jacob's concubines after Rachel and Leah apparently hit menopause and they bore Jacob 4 sons of his 12.
    Tamar seduced Juda to obtain a birthright.
    The whole chapter of Ruth 3 is a tale of seduction and sex.
    The Bible does not criticize any of these. It just basically says, 'this happened".
    In the Hebrew Bible, aka Old Testament there is no outright banning of sex between consenting adults. Terms like, "fornication)" "whoring", and "whoremongering" are often used for following other gods, a violation of the 1st Commandment.
    The Almighty, knowing of the abuses by Abraham and Hagar, Juda and Tamar, Jacob with Zilpah and Bilhah, and probably others, failed to address this most important issue which many believe will keep someone out of Heaven, when He gave the Law, and in doing so allowed what happened between Ruth and Boaz to occur.
    Last edited by Sailormilan2; 09-02-2021, 2:43 PM.

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    • #47
      norcalAF
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2012
      • 1654

      Originally posted by TFA777
      Can't remember the podcast I was listening to, a Jewish scholar said this is likely the origins of it, but he still won't eat pork even though he's secular.

      Back to OP, stop thinking of heaven in human physical terms. Needs that are human (food, drink) aren't likely needed in heaven.
      bacon transcends human needs.

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      • #48
        SelfGovernor
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 341

        Originally posted by ZapThyCat
        Eating pork is "lawlessness"? You're loopy if you think that.
        Someone else I know must also be loopy...

        Isaiah 65:2-6 2 I have stretched out My hands all day long to a rebellious people, Who walk in a way that is not good, According to their own thoughts; 3 A people who provoke Me to anger continually to My face; Who sacrifice in gardens, And burn incense on altars of brick; 4 Who sit among the graves, And spend the night in the tombs; Who eat swine's flesh, And the broth of abominable things is in their vessels; 5 Who say, 'Keep to yourself, Do not come near me, For I am holier than you!' These are smoke in My nostrils, A fire that burns all the day. 6 "Behold, it is written before Me: I will not keep silence, but will repay -- Even repay into their bosom --
        ... that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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        • #49
          Garand Hunter
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2771

          Good read Sailorman !

          Psalm 1

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          • #50
            CVShooter
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 1234

            Originally posted by Sailormilan2
            Well, most versions of the 6 Laws of Adam, and the 7 Laws of Noah, ban adultery and/or incest. Nowhere in the 613 Laws of the Torah, given at Sinai, does it outright ban what the Christian Church calls "fornication". There's a sin of "adultery" narrowly defined as "a man" and someone else's "wife". There is a minor rule of seducing a virgin, with a proscribed penalty of marriage, or paying the bride price(dowry).
            Hagar was in essence Abraham's concubine(a concubine is essentially a mistress) and the Bible says the Abraham did all the God commanded.
            Bilhah and Zilpah became Jacob's concubines after Rachel and Leah apparently hit menopause and they bore Jacob 4 sons of his 12.
            Tamar seduced Juda to obtain a birthright.
            The whole chapter of Ruth 3 is a tale of seduction and sex.
            The Bible does not criticize any of these. It just basically says, 'this happened".
            In the Hebrew Bible, aka Old Testament there is no outright banning of sex between consenting adults. Terms like, "fornication)" "whoring", and "whoremongering" are often used for following other gods, a violation of the 1st Commandment.
            The Almighty, knowing of the abuses by Abraham and Hagar, Juda and Tamar, Jacob with Zilpah and Bilhah, and probably others, failed to address this most important issue which many believe will keep someone out of Heaven, when He gave the Law, and in doing so allowed what happened between Ruth and Boaz to occur.
            You took my question way too seriously. This is a thread about bacon in heaven, after all. But thanks for that.

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            • #51
              ZapThyCat
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 2610

              Originally posted by SelfGovernor
              Someone else I know must also be loopy...
              Annnnnnnd we're not under the law anymore. Read 2 Corinthians 3, all of Galatians, all of Hebrews, and I can give you a few more scriptures if you'd like, but you can also simply read what Jesus said, "I am not come to destroy the law or prophets, but to fulfill". He fulfilled the old law/covenant/testament/contract, and now the laws that used to be in stone are written on our hearts. If you consider it a sin (aka separation from God) to eat pork, I'm not going to judge another mans convictions. But it's certainly not a sin overall for a person to have bacon. That's pure ridiculousness.

              Back to the subject: no, there's no bacon in heaven. Ditto with beef, mutton, turkey, cheese, salad, or whatever else.
              ~Jarrod~

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