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  • #61
    hey_scooter
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 139

    Gotta let it go man. Believe me, you aren't getting hired if you start witch hunting. And if you smell fishiness, then maybe that's a sign that it's not a place you wanted to work in the first place.

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    • #62
      HP911
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 159

      San Jose PD?

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      • #63
        bombadillo
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 14810

        Originally posted by hey_scooter
        Gotta let it go man. Believe me, you aren't getting hired if you start witch hunting. And if you smell fishiness, then maybe that's a sign that it's not a place you wanted to work in the first place.


        Listen to this guys advice man!

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        • #64
          TRICKSTER
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2008
          • 12438

          Originally posted by responsiblefreedom69
          I might be missing something here...BUT, if an agency asks you to submit to ANY type of medical testing (physical exam, psych test, etc) it has to be AFTER they give you a conditional offer of employment. You pass the exam/you get the job.

          I'm not talking about a physical agility test. That's performance-based, and is a normal part of testing.

          If you did "pass" the psych test, then they are contractually obligated to give you the job.
          Uh, NO!


          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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          • #65
            Adeodatus
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2254

            Originally posted by hey_scooter
            Gotta let it go man. Believe me, you aren't getting hired if you start witch hunting. And if you smell fishiness, then maybe that's a sign that it's not a place you wanted to work in the first place.
            Yeah, I'm not looking to start witch hunts but when you look at it that looks incredibly strange.

            True, I've been talking more with some close friends in law enforcement and they're telling me to take this turn down as a blessing in disguise. I'm agreeing that it really is now.
            Last edited by Adeodatus; 01-14-2015, 9:00 PM.

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            • #66
              Garand1911
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2002
              • 1443

              You are competing against people just like you, but they have military backgrounds and/or 4 year degrees.
              "I saved your life, AND brought you pizza" -- Me

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              • #67
                shenphong
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 364

                Don't take it so negatively, don't take it as a blessing in disguise, delete the photo of the scheduling form and just take away what can be improved about yourself and try again. I went through the same thing as you did, was denied the first time. There is always something to strive better on and always someone better qualified then you. Try other departments as well, but threads like this will not help your case should your future background investigator run across it, with the same department or not.

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                • #68
                  Adeodatus
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2254

                  Originally posted by shenphong
                  Don't take it so negatively, don't take it as a blessing in disguise, delete the photo of the scheduling form and just take away what can be improved about yourself and try again. I went through the same thing as you did, was denied the first time. There is always something to strive better on and always someone better qualified then you. Try other departments as well, but threads like this will not help your case should your future background investigator run across it, with the same department or not.
                  Thanks man.


                  Well guys, thank you so much for all the advice and input.

                  I'm keeping my head up and constantly applying to everywhere I can.

                  Thanks again everyone!
                  Last edited by Adeodatus; 01-15-2015, 10:30 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Untamed1972
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 17579

                    Are you a white male?

                    If so that's prolly 2 strikes against you these days when it comes to highly competitive public employment of any kind.

                    And as mentioned, Vets are getting a lot of preference in public hiring at all levels in all types of professions right now, and after over a decade of ongoing war, there are a lot of them.
                    Last edited by Untamed1972; 01-15-2015, 1:34 PM.
                    "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                    Quote for the day:
                    "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                    • #70
                      pdq_wizzard
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 3813

                      Not a LEO, but my oldest is now in the CDCR academy.

                      This is what I told him, so take this for what it is,

                      If you are going into public service make sure you save for your own retirement. They will promise you the world, it might be there it might not. You don't want to have to start working at Walmart after you retire.
                      Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
                      A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.

                      Originally posted by M. Sage
                      More what? More crazy?
                      You live in California. There's always more crazy. It's a renewable resource.

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                      • #71
                        shenphong
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 364

                        Originally posted by pdq_wizzard
                        Not a LEO, but my oldest is now in the CDCR academy.

                        This is what I told him, so take this for what it is,

                        If you are going into public service make sure you save for your own retirement. They will promise you the world, it might be there it might not. You don't want to have to start working at Walmart after you retire.
                        As someone who has spent his young life in public service...I agree with this 100%. I went into public service for the "mission" and the belief in doing some good. I was ok with the mediocre to low pay as the benefits were a pretty nice offset...things have been changing heavily. I don't regret it, but I advise anyone to really look at what they are getting into.

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                        • #72
                          Untamed1972
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 17579

                          Originally posted by pdq_wizzard
                          Not a LEO, but my oldest is now in the CDCR academy.

                          This is what I told him, so take this for what it is,

                          If you are going into public service make sure you save for your own retirement. They will promise you the world, it might be there it might not. You don't want to have to start working at Walmart after you retire.
                          Originally posted by shenphong
                          As someone who has spent his young life in public service...I agree with this 100%. I went into public service for the "mission" and the belief in doing some good. I was ok with the mediocre to low pay as the benefits were a pretty nice offset...things have been changing heavily. I don't regret it, but I advise anyone to really look at what they are getting into.
                          with 23yrs of public service and counting.....I will 3rd that as well.

                          Isn't the average LE career something like only 10-11yrs? Seems like a great many never make it to retirement in that field.
                          "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                          Quote for the day:
                          "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                          • #73
                            Adeodatus
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 2254

                            Originally posted by Untamed1972
                            Are you a white male?

                            If so that's prolly 2 strikes against you these days when it comes to highly competitive public employment of any kind.

                            And as mentioned, Vets are getting a lot of preference in public hiring at all levels in all types of professions right now, and after over a decade of ongoing war, there are a lot of them.
                            Yup, white, male, and a non vet.

                            Originally posted by pdq_wizzard
                            Not a LEO, but my oldest is now in the CDCR academy.

                            This is what I told him, so take this for what it is,

                            If you are going into public service make sure you save for your own retirement. They will promise you the world, it might be there it might not. You don't want to have to start working at Walmart after you retire.
                            I'm all for being smart and saving for my own retirement.

                            Originally posted by shenphong
                            As someone who has spent his young life in public service...I agree with this 100%. I went into public service for the "mission" and the belief in doing some good. I was ok with the mediocre to low pay as the benefits were a pretty nice offset...things have been changing heavily. I don't regret it, but I advise anyone to really look at what they are getting into.
                            Yeah I'm into the mission of doing some good and I'm also fine with lower pay and lower benefits. I'm sure I can manage it.

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                            • #74
                              Che762x39
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4538

                              Here is my POV as a career lawman of the sheepdog breed.

                              Take a aptitude test. See if a LE career is the best choice for you. Not everyone can be a doctor, astronaut or a police officer. It is a tough career and not for everyone.

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                              • #75
                                Adeodatus
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2254

                                Originally posted by Che762x39
                                Here is my POV as a career lawman of the sheepdog breed.

                                Take a aptitude test. See if a LE career is the best choice for you. Not everyone can be a doctor, astronaut or a police officer. It is a tough career and not for everyone.
                                Thanks. I've taken a few in the past and match for law enforcement and public service.

                                I do very well in high stress situations. I've been around lots of crazy stuff, like have people die right in front of me and I do quite well maintaining composure and doing what needs to be done.

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