Collapsable or Straight Stick?

[mixicus]

Like above, ASP on the belt and a straight stick in the car. A baton ring is always on the belt. With this set up, you always have an baton with you without juggling another thing getting out of the car. You also can rapidly upgrade when you are going to a "known' issue where a baton is likely needed.

[Zedrek]

gunner336 has the solution......

slightly off topic.........

I carried a collapsible baton in my last years before retirement. I ate lunch at my desk and my hands were a little greasy. One of our my sworn staff asked how the baton is deployed (it was laying on my desk). Like an idiot I "flicked" it open and promptly launched it and punched a hole in my office wall.

I had a PC 832 class and we were doing baton training with the PR-24 and That was the most frightening class I've ever had. There were batons flying all over the place.

[Triad]

I prefer my straight stick.

I have deployed a Monadnock colapsable, ASP collapsable and the RCB collapsable. I've broken or bent them all.

[CBR_rider]

I've broken a Monadnock by... opening it. It was likely already damaged, but it closed normally prior to the final time I opened it. Fortunately I didn't have to use it when I opened it the last time (suspect gave up at that point) as I'm not sure whether it would have partially collapsed, stayed fully extended, or what.

[Ron-Solo]

I carried an asp on my belt for years, but department policy required the PR-24 to be available in the car.

They have different applications, so comparing the two can be awkward.

[center_x]

Keep the collapsible on your belt and straight stick in the trunk.

[Petro6golf]

Im gonna go with Center x's suggestion and keep the straight stick on my patrol bag in the front seat.

[non sequitur]

26 inch straight stick

"There's nothing like a nice piece of hickory."

- The Preacher

[Poohgyrr]

Some Cops have a different point of view.

Even before collapsibles, I had no problem taking my 29" Koga with me every time I get out of the car. Like posted above, a good 29" straight stick, on your belt or in your hands, is easily recognized and helps obtain cooperation. These batons prevent fights, and if you have to use one - they work much better than a 26"er or the collapsibles.

A good straight stick simply works too well not to have. Get the standard diameter, not the skinny stick. And get one with some heft to it, not some stick made of balsa wood type light weight stuff.

If someone tells you it is too heavy or too much trouble, just smile and walk away. (I mean come on, a guy wants to be a Cop and yet is complaining about this baton? Shake the cobwebs out of your head and resume thinking. Odds are most of us need to lose more weight from our guts than this stick weighs.)

This fad of collapsibles has confused a lot of folks. They can work as yawara sticks.

smiles

[veeklog]

The Monadnock baton with the tacky rubber grip is the way to go. No rattling noise, easy to deploy, and it has a button to close it rather than pounding it against the ground. Therefore it won't collapse if you jab someone with it.

We're issued those now, and I prefer the ASP. That is my preference since I have deployed and used it. I guess for me it's the comfort factor

[1911_sfca]

I keep the ASP on my bike patrol rig and carry the straight stick on patrol. It's more cumbersome, but far more effective. I carry an Ironwood 24" stick. It's very dense.

http://shop.arizonaironwood.com/The-Ironwood-Billy-IWBLY.htm

[mdib870]

straight stick the asp isnt worth **** in a bar fight with some big dudes

[SOCALPIG]

Ive used my asp a couple times to break out windows but that's about all they're good for. The first time I was involved in a fight with a suspect, the asp bent and was rendered inoperable. If you want ultimate deterrence, go with the biggest club you can find to bring into the fight.

[pooberto]

29" RCB on the belt.

29" Dymondwood in the car for blasters, eh I mean calls where I may need it.

[omgwtfbbq]

My agency issues Collapsable ASP batons... We are also only allowed carry Collapsable models as that is what our instructors train. If we want anything better than an ASP (which is pretty much anything other than an ASP) we have to buy it. Most officers don't wanna shell out the money for RCB Peacekeepers.