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  • #31
    Unbeliever
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 112

    Originally posted by EOD3
    NOT the best idea I've ever heard...

    PENAL CODE
    SECTION 24310-24390
    That's for "briefcase guns" not unusually shaped gun cases.

    Briefcase guns are those that enclose and camouflage the firearm and have an external mechanism that allows operating the weapon while it is still in the container. There's no such mechanism on that guitar case picture that does that.

    By absurdity, if you suggest putting a rifle an unusually shaped gun case is illegal because it camouflages, then so does putting a rifle in a backpack or a pistol in a range bag.

    --Carlos V.

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    • #32
    • #33
      xbatis
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 48

      LWRCI Discrete Gun Case

      Last edited by xbatis; 03-31-2011, 1:58 AM.

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      • #34
        EOD3
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 949

        Originally posted by Unbeliever
        That's for "briefcase guns" not unusually shaped gun cases.

        Briefcase guns are those that enclose and camouflage the firearm and have an external mechanism that allows operating the weapon while it is still in the container. There's no such mechanism on that guitar case picture that does that.

        By absurdity, if you suggest putting a rifle an unusually shaped gun case is illegal because it camouflages, then so does putting a rifle in a backpack or a pistol in a range bag.

        --Carlos V.
        I would have sworn the code referred to a disguising container from which the weapon could be fired without being removed...

        Guess I should skim over the PC every few years...

        If you're looking for things that "make sense", the Cal. PC and VC are about the last place you should look...
        "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders!" ~Ted Nugent

        "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." ~ Claire Wolfe

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        • #35
          BrokerB
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 5377

          please film it too : )
          ...

          Buy a non discrete backpack for it...case solved
          Beans and Bullets

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          • #36
            tyrist
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 4564

            Originally posted by UNDFTD
            So if I keep it in the case it won't be considered "concealed carry" because i'm in a "vehicle" right?
            You cannot conceal a rifle as far as the penal code is concerned.

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            • #37
              MoBait
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 539

              After a duck hunting trip this winter I got to my apartment complex and saw a Uhaul truck blocking my parking spot. I saw no one around so I just parked on the street. I walked to my apartment (1/4 mile) with my shotgun, stringer of ducks, and camo clothing and face paint. About ten minutes after I got inside, I saw three officers walking around my complex with guns drawn. After I cleaned up and changed I went outside and asked what was going on. They said someone reported seeing a homeless man with a machine gun trying to get into people's homes. I told them that I think I was the crazy homeless man and explained the situation, we all laughed about it. They said that most the UCSD students that live in that complex can't tell a musket from an RPG.

              My point is, all the looks you will get and the potential police contact will probably be uncomfortable. Just break apart the upper from the lower and put them in a backpack.

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              • #38
                bfoster
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 66

                Another thing to consider is that a person with a rifle is a very serious threat to a LEO. Most of our vests won't even slow an AR round down let alone stop it. Not only will you stress out John Q Public by riding around with your "Big scary assault rifle" hanging out, but the LEO's that respond to your suspicious person call will be on red alert as well. Not my idea of a good time.

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                • #39
                  PsychGuy274
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 4289

                  Originally posted by tyrist
                  You cannot conceal a rifle as far as the penal code is concerned.
                  Yes you can.

                  12025 PC only applies to, "any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
                  of being concealed upon the person."

                  Long guns such as shotguns and rifles do not fall under those categories and hence are exempt from 12025 PC.
                  I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                  CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                  CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                  • #40
                    bubbagump
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2302

                    Originally posted by PsychGuy274
                    Yes you can.

                    12025 PC only applies to, "any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
                    of being concealed upon the person."

                    Long guns such as shotguns and rifles do not fall under those categories and hence are exempt from 12025 PC.
                    I think what he meant was a rifle doesn't fall under "Concealable" like a handgun does.

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                    • #41
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      Just have it unloaded and in the nice case it comes in. If anyone calls in a guy with a gun in a case on his bicycle, then be prepared to talk with the police.

                      And there are two ways to go about it. You can exercise your rights and admit to nothing and show them nothing. If they ask what is in the case, say, "Am I free to go?" If they say no ask them why you are being detained. If they say they think there is a rifle in your case, tell them you have nothing to say about anything in the case.

                      Make sure it has a lock on it.

                      If they continue, remind them that even if there was an unloaded firearm in the case, that it is not illegal to transport an unloaded rifle out in the open and definitely not in a locked case.

                      Or you can just cooperate. Tell them you are heading to the range and you have an unloaded rifle in your case. Remind them the Second Amendment also applies to people who would rather spend their money on nice firearms than a vehicle to transport things in.

                      You can break it down and all of that too if you want. I just say carry it in the case it came in and just be mentally prepared to explain yourself should some sheeple call you in.

                      I bet most people won't even notice.
                      www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                      • #42
                        Spoilerv2
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 542

                        I know this is against what you're going for, but imagine someone with all this.

                        1. http://www.jazzygearsports.com/Side-...eride_rack.htm

                        2. http://armysurplus1.net/catalog/prod...617fcb1ba984be

                        with at sticker like this on the case.

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                        • #43
                          PsychGuy274
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 4289

                          Originally posted by bubbagump
                          I think what he meant was a rifle doesn't fall under "Concealable" like a handgun does.
                          Oooooohhhhh, nevermind then
                          I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                          CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                          CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                          • #44
                            SparrowHanger
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 347

                            If you are going to transport a firearm in a backpack or other container, would it be a good idea to shap a lock on it? Is it even considered a firearm if broken into two or more pieces? I am concerned with traveling throught a school zone with a weapon to which the conealable law does not apply (a shotgun).

                            Also, a lot of the times I just throw it in the trunk. Is that a problem, if I am stopped inn a school zone, and the trunk isn't locked and is it locked if it can be opened without a key by pushing the release insicde the passenber compartment?

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                            • #45
                              Jubba
                              Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 142

                              Originally posted by EOD3
                              NOT the best idea I've ever heard...

                              PENAL CODE
                              SECTION 24310-24390


                              24310. Except as provided in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section
                              17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any person in this state who
                              manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state,
                              keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends,
                              or possesses any camouflaging firearm container is punishable by
                              imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state
                              prison.



                              24390. Except as provided in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section
                              17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any camouflaging firearm container
                              is a nuisance and is subject to Section 18010.


                              As others have said, toss in some sort of case with a lock, you can have your mags loaded / ammunition in the same case so long as the firearm isn't loaded (Loaded mag in magwell). You can legally open carry, but you'll only be causing problems for yourself.
                              Last edited by Jubba; 04-11-2011, 4:23 PM.

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