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  • #91
    tempdrummer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 833

    Originally posted by G1500
    I agree, stupid laws wherever you look. I'm just glad southern California is pretty lenient on window tint.

    I use my signals on occasion, but I NEVER trust anyone with their signal on. I can name countless times I have seen someone go from the #1 lane to #4 lane to exit the freeway with their left hand blinker on, or people who drive aimlessly down the street with a blinker on. Its almost like they don't even matter.
    agreed.
    Last edited by tempdrummer; 03-14-2011, 4:47 PM.

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    • #92
      tempdrummer
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 833

      Im not buying the parked car argument since there is no law against covering windows on an immobile vehicle. I mean what about car covers? or sun shades? Where would you draw the line?

      There's NO reason that a PARKED car needs to be fully viewable for anyone walking by even if it is a LEO.

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      • #93
        Samuelx
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1558

        Originally posted by G1500
        Not saying an officer's job is not easy or not dangerous, but what about other states that allow tinted windows, is it easier for them to do the job, or is it just dangerous in CA?

        Either way, it is beside the point, if I get pulled over, I roll my windows down so the officer can see in the vehicle, and I have license, registration, and proof of insurance ready for him. This way, he can clearly see into the vehicle to see what I am doing.

        I do agree though with some others, with super dark tint on the rear windows of a vehicle, the officer cannot see in. If some gang bangers were getting pulled over, and the officer could clearly see the driver, and there is someone hiding out in the back seat, he could be in for some trouble.

        People need to remember, bad people do bad things, whether they are breaking the law at the time or not. An officer's life could easily be in danger if he pulls over a vehicle with no tinted windows and lets his guard up for a split second.

        I have noticed though, since I have had my windows tinted, that I drive safer, and make sure all my ducks are in a row, more so than before, simply due to the fact that the minute I pull out of my driveway I have a reason to be pulled over at any time.
        Not being able to clearly see into a vehicle is an officer safety issue no matter where you work and regardless of whether or not there is a law against it. And absolutely, traffic stops are inherently dangerous - even with totally clear windows.

        Thank you for your consideration in rolling down your windows - that makes our job easier/safer. I would recommend, however, NOT getting things ready for an officer prior to contact - i.e. do NOT get your ID/paperwork out/ready. All that movement/rummaging around is often going to be interpreted as furtive movements from a BG.

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        • #94
          Samuelx
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1558

          Originally posted by Spetsnazos
          I'd be down with 30% only tint in the front. Just enough to shade from the sun and not get skin cancer.

          srs

          Also in other states they do not have this law and somehow the cops dont get killed. idk...
          Umm newsflash for you - cops DO get killed during traffic stops "ALL OVER THE COUNTRY". That's right, you DON'T KNOW - remember that...

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          • #95
            Notorious
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4695

            Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.

            Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.
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            • #96
              tempdrummer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 833

              Originally posted by Notorious
              Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.

              Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.
              Got ya covered:



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              • #97
                G1500
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1825

                Originally posted by Samuelx
                Not being able to clearly see into a vehicle is an officer safety issue no matter where you work and regardless of whether or not there is a law against it. And absolutely, traffic stops are inherently dangerous - even with totally clear windows.

                Thank you for your consideration in rolling down your windows - that makes our job easier/safer. I would recommend, however, NOT getting things ready for an officer prior to contact - i.e. do NOT get your ID/paperwork out/ready. All that movement/rummaging around is often going to be interpreted as furtive movements from a BG.
                I have it easy to access so I doubt it would even be noticed. I just prefer to have it, its not the officer won't ask for it. There have been times when I was pulled over, and just grabbed my license, but generally they ask for the whole 9.

                I roll the windows down for 2 reasons, one for you and one for me. I prefer the officer be able to see and talk to me when he comes up, the easier I make it on him, hopefully he will make it easier on me. The second reason is maybe he won't notice the tint I am not going to lie about having windows tinted, but I am not going to come out and tell him.

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                • #98
                  G1500
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1825

                  Originally posted by Notorious
                  Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.

                  Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.
                  I thought that's what the bright *** spot light shining in my eyes was for...

                  lol.

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                  • #99
                    rudigan
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2061

                    Originally posted by tempdrummer
                    Got ya covered:



                    Blue Blockers are cheaper
                    Member & Contributor CRPA/NRA

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                    • Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4695

                      Originally posted by tempdrummer
                      Got ya covered:



                      Great, now find me a POST certified plan IV class that is in the local area so I can wear it on duty.

                      Originally posted by G1500
                      I thought that's what the bright *** spot light shining in my eyes was for...

                      lol.
                      Come on a ride with me. I will pull over or walk up on at least a handful of vehicles that have tint so dark that my spots and takedown won't penetrate. Also, lighting up a vehicle from behind does me no good when I have to walk up on to and try to look inside from the side approach. It's still dark as crap. I have to pretty much put my handheld flashlight right up on the glass to get any light through.
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                      • G1500
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1825

                        I don't doubt it. But like I said before, I will always have my window rolled down before you get to it.

                        I will also fold my mirrors in, that light is BRIGHT!. lol

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                        • Notorious
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4695

                          It's not you I'm worried about. It's the thugs and drug runners.
                          I like guns

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                          • G1500
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1825

                            Originally posted by Notorious
                            It's not you I'm worried about. It's the thugs and drug runners.


                            I know, but its one of those unfortunate parts of the job.

                            I prefer not to be drawn on, so I make it easy for you not to have to.

                            Stay safe.


                            (Oh yea, if you ever happen to pull over an inconspicuous, Chevy Silverado with limo tint, go easy on me Him. )

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                            • Notorious
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4695

                              Dude... there are so many Chevy Silverado's with limo tint out in the West Valley that I would have to pull over a few hundred of them before I get to you.
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                              • G1500
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1825

                                Originally posted by Notorious
                                Dude... there are so many Chevy Silverado's with limo tint out in the West Valley that I would have to pull over a few hundred of them before I get to you.
                                You could always do yourself a favor, and tell your fellow officers not to pull any Crew cab chevys over.

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