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Im not buying the parked car argument since there is no law against covering windows on an immobile vehicle. I mean what about car covers? or sun shades? Where would you draw the line?
There's NO reason that a PARKED car needs to be fully viewable for anyone walking by even if it is a LEO.Comment
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Not being able to clearly see into a vehicle is an officer safety issue no matter where you work and regardless of whether or not there is a law against it. And absolutely, traffic stops are inherently dangerous - even with totally clear windows.Not saying an officer's job is not easy or not dangerous, but what about other states that allow tinted windows, is it easier for them to do the job, or is it just dangerous in CA?
Either way, it is beside the point, if I get pulled over, I roll my windows down so the officer can see in the vehicle, and I have license, registration, and proof of insurance ready for him. This way, he can clearly see into the vehicle to see what I am doing.
I do agree though with some others, with super dark tint on the rear windows of a vehicle, the officer cannot see in. If some gang bangers were getting pulled over, and the officer could clearly see the driver, and there is someone hiding out in the back seat, he could be in for some trouble.
People need to remember, bad people do bad things, whether they are breaking the law at the time or not. An officer's life could easily be in danger if he pulls over a vehicle with no tinted windows and lets his guard up for a split second.
I have noticed though, since I have had my windows tinted, that I drive safer, and make sure all my ducks are in a row, more so than before, simply due to the fact that the minute I pull out of my driveway I have a reason to be pulled over at any time.
Thank you for your consideration in rolling down your windows - that makes our job easier/safer. I would recommend, however, NOT getting things ready for an officer prior to contact - i.e. do NOT get your ID/paperwork out/ready. All that movement/rummaging around is often going to be interpreted as furtive movements from a BG.Comment
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Umm newsflash for you - cops DO get killed during traffic stops "ALL OVER THE COUNTRY". That's right, you DON'T KNOW - remember that...
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Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.
Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.I like guns
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Got ya covered:Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.
Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.

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I have it easy to access so I doubt it would even be noticed. I just prefer to have it, its not the officer won't ask for it. There have been times when I was pulled over, and just grabbed my license, but generally they ask for the whole 9.Not being able to clearly see into a vehicle is an officer safety issue no matter where you work and regardless of whether or not there is a law against it. And absolutely, traffic stops are inherently dangerous - even with totally clear windows.
Thank you for your consideration in rolling down your windows - that makes our job easier/safer. I would recommend, however, NOT getting things ready for an officer prior to contact - i.e. do NOT get your ID/paperwork out/ready. All that movement/rummaging around is often going to be interpreted as furtive movements from a BG.
I roll the windows down for 2 reasons, one for you and one for me. I prefer the officer be able to see and talk to me when he comes up, the easier I make it on him, hopefully he will make it easier on me. The second reason is maybe he won't notice the tint
I am not going to lie about having windows tinted, but I am not going to come out and tell him.
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I thought that's what the bright *** spot light shining in my eyes was for...Methinks some read too much into my response. Many laws are not made for officer safety. I am not saying we need to change the tint law just because of my experience either. You are free to park your tinted car with all your valuables in it anywhere you want. I don't have to like when I walk up on it though.
Btw, if you find any training classes that will teach me to see inside dark tinted cars, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I'd imagine AZ LEO's would too.
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Great, now find me a POST certified plan IV class that is in the local area so I can wear it on duty.
Come on a ride with me. I will pull over or walk up on at least a handful of vehicles that have tint so dark that my spots and takedown won't penetrate. Also, lighting up a vehicle from behind does me no good when I have to walk up on to and try to look inside from the side approach. It's still dark as crap. I have to pretty much put my handheld flashlight right up on the glass to get any light through.I like guns
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I know, but its one of those unfortunate parts of the job.
I prefer not to be drawn on, so I make it easy for you not to have to.
Stay safe.
(Oh yea, if you ever happen to pull over an inconspicuous, Chevy Silverado with limo tint, go easy onmeHim.
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