window tint

[Will Goes Boing]

That's easy. Things that shouldn't be enforced or applied to them are not real crimes. Then you get complaints because you cruise all day without doing any work because "real" crimes aren't happening every minute.

Our community wants us to go after crimes which are not earth shattering. We are here to enforce all laws. Don't like the law? Take it up with your congressman or state assembly man.

I'm biting off of you with the raccoon logo Yoda Master.

[Notorious]

I'm biting off of you with the raccoon logo Yoda Master.

You gotta go with the black and white tactical version, didn't you?

Are you worthy of the STARS patch?

How's FTO going? Did you lose a lot of weight? I know I did.

[97F1504RAD]

You have to understand that the police ARE dealing with "real" criminals but on the occasional down times when there aren't "real" crimes happening, they deal with the more petty things like..... illegal window tint.

Yes I fully understand that you think real crimes do not happen all the time but they do you guys just may not see or know of them. And enforcing a bogus law that has no effect and anything other than you writing a revenue generating ticket for someone that has window tint is lame. Now like i said before I do not agree with someone going extremely dark on the side windows but a light tint like on the mustang above is harmless to anyone and you can see right in with it. And as long as I am obeying all other laws and traffic rules I think a little leeway would go along way to helping the LEO's image within the community.

I come from a long line of Police Officers in my family so I know how hard the job is and thank all of you for the service you give but the tint law is bogus.

Someone said write the congressmen/assemblyman that is actually comical do you really think that does any of us any good?

And yes I do call and write them already but as you can see it has done none of us any good.

[Notorious]

I think a little leeway would go along way to helping the LEO's image within the community.

Someone said write the congressmen/assemblyman that is actually comical do you really think that does any of us any good?

Taking just the pertinent parts...

So for us to improve our image and make you like us, we have to let you decide which laws you don't want us to enforce on you. Kinda like our foreign policy, we'll give you money as long as you say you like us, even if you really don't.

As for writing your legislator, whether or not it does any good is irrelevant. It is the proper process to address your concerns. If they are unresponsive, that's on them for ignoring their constituents. That still does not excuse you breaking the law or giving the LEO who is enforcing the law any grief. In the end, it's still the law even if you think it's lame.

I'm sure there are lots of laws we all disagree with but that does not give us the right to break it. If you do break it, then you take the chance you will be caught and prosecuted for it, even if if is as trivial as the tint law.

[xrMike]

As far as cops using illegal window tint as a "pretext" for traffic stops, I'm all for that.

Drivers who are willing to break one law are often willing to break others as well. Window tinting is an indicator, or predictor, of other illegal behaviors. Not always, but often enough that it makes sense to pull them over and check 'em out.

[Spetsnazos]

lol give it a rest guys. You are arguing with people that are just doing their job. You really think that LEO's want to give these crap tickets out? Maybe if you're being a douche but for the most part they're just doing their 9-5 and doing what the state tells them. To be honest, we shouldnt have LEO's cutting us some slack but really take it up with the state laws. I talked to my father in law last night about this who is a retired LEO of 30 years and he said there's alot of BS laws that he had to follow but didn't fully agree with. This one being very very far down the list.

I have no faith in us changing this law though...Unless skin cancer rates quadruple.

[jamesonamac]

Going 56 in a 55 is also breaking the law. I think what a lot of guys are thinking is that an officer is well within the scope of his duty to interpret the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law. If someone gets pulled over and immidiately rolls down all his windows and turns on his dome light, he is making every attempt to let the officer see inside and increase his feeling of safety. If the spirit of the law is an officer safety issue, why hassle the average law abiding (other than the tinted windows) citizen who satisfies the spirit of the law? I have my front windows lightly tinted. I have an hour a day commute, I don't like the sun beating up on me, or my interior, and summers here often are in the 100s. I do this with the knowledge that some officers have vendettas against certain infractions. I also set my cruise control at 58 fully understanding that I am committing another infraction. I belive I live up to the spirit of the law on both counts. Others may not...

[wrestlingnrj]

One of the things I have found in the multiple times I have been stopped over the past few years for tint is that if you show respect for the officer you are much more likely to get respect in return. The one time I did receive a ticket, the officer I was talking to said, "sorry my partner is a dick and likes to give out tickets for the most petty things." Yes, he did call his partner a "dick" in front of me and my girlfriend.

In my opinion, which I see isn't worth much based on many of the replies, small things like this do give good PC to stop, but I see it as a petty ticket for nothing more than generating revenue.

[G1500]

There are a lot of revenue generators, either deal with the chance of getting a ticket for your windows, or remove the tint and obey the laws.

[Notorious]

Good job at twisting my words to your meaning. Curious where I said I did not like any of you LEO's?

Oh my having light tint makes me a hard core criminal. Hilarious to say the least. So do all you LEO never drive over the speed limit? Never talk on your cell phones while working even when not work related. I highly doubt it and am fairly certain most of you break laws everyday as well when on and off duty.

If I fracture a law or two in my daily life, I expect to get busted for it and suffer the consequences for it. If I run tint on my car, which I don't... or if I speed, which I occasionally do, I expect the cops who enforce the laws to do their job.

I am the one that put the cop in that situation in the first place. He didn't pick me to break the law, I broke the law, and made him come after me.

Whether the law is petty or not, that is not my call, is it? Crime classification is up to the... yep... legislature. They decide if it is an infraction, misdemeanor, or felony. Not me. I just enforce it.

As to the poster who talked about the spirit of the law, I fully agree with you. You make it easy on me, I make it easy on you. You don't give me any reasons to think you're hiding something, I won't go digging.

Like you said, cooperate, be courteous, show the officer you are not trying to be difficult and play the "I know my Constitutional Rights" game, and I will do what I have to do, and get you on your way.

[97F1504RAD]

If I fracture a law or two in my daily life, I expect to get busted for it and suffer the consequences for it. If I run tint on my car, which I don't... or if I speed, which I occasionally do, I expect the cops who enforce the laws to do their job.

I am the one that put the cop in that situation in the first place. He didn't pick me to break the law, I broke the law, and made him come after me.

Whether the law is petty or not, that is not my call, is it? Crime classification is up to the... yep... legislature. They decide if it is an infraction, misdemeanor, or felony. Not me. I just enforce it.

As to the poster who talked about the spirit of the law, I fully agree with you. You make it easy on me, I make it easy on you. You don't give me any reasons to think you're hiding something, I won't go digging.

Like you said, cooperate, be courteous, show the officer you are not trying to be difficult and play the "I know my Constitutional Rights" game, and I will do what I have to do, and get you on your way.

I never said I did not expect to get a ticket for tint. That is the risk I run with the choice I made.
I am one of the good guys whether you choose to believe that or not and do as the one poster says if and when I ever do get pulled over.

All windows go down, hands get kept on steering wheel if it's night the interior light gets turned on. Yes Sir No sir will be my replies.

As for you getting busted for speeding or what ever other traffic law you may have violated, I am sure you get shown that professional courtesy and get let go. Not to mention the fact that most LEO have their plates set as private so that an officer pulling you over already knows you a fellow LEO.

[retired]

Please keep on topic. Meets with each other can be done with pms. Thanks.

[Notorious]

I never thought of you as a bad guy, but like I said, you make your bed, you lie in it.

I never ask for professional courtesy, but yes, if a cop figures out I am also a cop, and exercises his discretion, I won't challenge him and tell him to scratch me. There's one major department that doesn't always run your plate before pulling you over, so that is not a guarantee of immunity either.

[Notorious]

Please keep on topic. Meets with each other can be done with pms. Thanks.

10-4. My apologies as the senior officer on duty and I accept full responsibilty for Boing's conduct.

[97F1504RAD]

I never thought of you as a bad guy, but like I said, you make your bed, you lie in it.

I never ask for professional courtesy, but yes, if a cop figures out I am also a cop, and exercises his discretion, I won't challenge him and tell him to scratch me. There's one major department that doesn't always run your plate before pulling you over, so that is not a guarantee of immunity either.

Discretion being the key word. And all of you LEO's can use that on folks that have tint as well. You do not have to site any of them/us. And as I have said numerous times, I accept what happens if I get a ticket. I am a big boy and can accept the consequences of my actions. The Mustang is the only vehicle I have that has tint on the front windows. None of my others do.