window tint

[Lrchops]

Plain English what is legal. Understood it is an officer saftey issue as well as a great "pre text" stop. How does the LE community feel about this and what is acceptable. Thanks everyone.

Yes it is an officer safety issue, but it is also nice to have tinted windows living in a hot environment!! It's legal in many other states. In California, it is a reason to make a stop, but arent most the BS laws??

Just like the cell phone law. Another BIG BROTHER Gov't law to screw the people!!! Yet another avenue of PC for a stop if yah think the dude fits the profile (yeah I know 'PROFILE' is not politically correct, although it is a good reality!!!

[IrishJoe3]

if you do get a ticket, its a fix it ticket, so you get a razor blade and a steamer, take it off, get it signed off at CHP , and go re-tint =)

Which is exactly why a lot of officers no longer cite it correctable.

[Tripper]

sorry, think i'm done now.

Tripper

[rudigan]

Yes! And the no turn signals, and the won't pull over with over 5 cars behind them guy, silly booming stero, etc. But agree, only if there is nothing else going on.

[mlatino]

acceptable to me, the public.
umm, yah, i think i can decide whats acceptable to me
I'm simply passing along my experience, observations and opinions, what you do with them is up to you.
i havent dictated anything, i simply stated that I find it unacceptable for an officer to waste MY tax paying dollars to ticket someone for something as frivolous as window tinting. I'd hope that officers dont use that as sole probable cause for anything serious. oh, I guess nobody has ever seen window tint being rejected as probable cause, try it sometime, and let me know how that works out.

I also suggested that I do uphold that officers should have tools available to them that help, because I do think we/the public tie the hands a bit.

Tripper

You'd be surprised how many good felony dope/weapons cases are developed from PC developed form "frivolous window tinting." Not to mention other "frivolous" vehicle code VIOLATIONS such as 24601VC - Inoperable license plate lamp, and 26710VC - Cracked windshield...

[Tripper]

I'd prefer they follow the ambulance/firetruck, and ticket the drivers that dont yield to the emergency vehicle. but only if they got just nothin else to do but ticket the evil tinters.

Tripper

[Tripper]

window tint criminal, some big time criminals there huh...

Tripper

[rudigan]

My opinion: I am totally OK with LE using MY tax dollars to stop/ticket any window tint criminal you can.

[Tripper]

acceptable to me, the public.
umm, yah, i think i can decide whats acceptable to me
I'm simply passing along my experience, observations and opinions, what you do with them is up to you.
i havent dictated anything, i simply stated that I find it unacceptable for an officer to waste MY tax paying dollars to ticket someone for something as frivolous as window tinting.

I'd hope that officers dont use that as sole probable cause for anything serious. oh, I guess nobody has ever seen window tint being rejected as probable cause, try it sometime, and let me know how that works out.

I also suggested that I do uphold that officers should have tools available to them that help, because I do think we/the public tie the hands a bit.

Tripper

[FLIGHT762]

For the O/P, there's a thread which I posted information on CVC tinting laws.
It's a few pages, but if you skim through, my posts have factual information you may find helpful.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=373931&highlight=tint

[JS89]

with or without tint, in pouring rain, i put down all my windows and at night i turn on the dome light.

the stupid punk/criminal comment is referred to as 'jaded' me thinks
is it not legal because of law, or because its not liked? just curious

I much prefer LEO's have the tools available to them to make a stop when they feel necessary, but if cops are stopping drivers just for the window tint, i think they are really pushing it and wasting my tax paying dollar. stopping for tint to hopefully find something else to really support further detention i'm ok with, but if a cop stops and tickets 'just' for tint, thats unacceptable.

anytime i've been pulled over for tint, they approach the car, say something about the tint, we talk a bit, and they say have a nice day.
Tripper

I take it that your vast amount of law enforcement experience enables you to dictate what is acceptable for law enforcement to do?

[FLIGHT762]

theres also medical reasons you can get it, but still only 20% or 22%.
its hard on LEO, unless they have an actual piece of test equipment, been through that one myself, on a factory tint job (smoked glass). its impossible for an officer to claim they can tell its tinted xx%, that would be pretty much lying. I used to have it from CHP FAQ, that tinting was not illegal. couldnt find it last i looked though.

Tripper

I used the Laser Labs Model 100, so I didn't have to lie on the citations I wrote. http://www.laser-labs.com/products.php

Even with a Doctor's note, you cannot permanently tint the windows. With the note, You would be allowed to use removable tint, shade or louvers to block you from the sun, but they have to be removed during darkness.

[rudigan]

hmm, found it, go down to the 'however' part

source = http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

Can I put after-market tinting on the windows of my vehicle?
The main requirements for legal window tinting in California are:

1. The windshield and front driver's side and passenger's side windows cannot receive any aftermarket tinting.
2. If the rear window of a vehicle is tinted, the vehicle must have outside rearview mirrors on both sides.

The law prohibits any person from driving any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows, with certain limited exceptions.

However, legislation signed into law effective January 1, 1999, exempts from the above prohibition specified clear, colorless, and transparent material that is installed, affixed, or applied to the front driver and passenger side windows for the specific purpose of reducing ultraviolet rays. If, as, or when this material becomes torn, bubbled or otherwise worn, it must be removed or replaced.

clear, colorless, and transparent material = No Tint.

[Tripper]

I just made a long post, but figured i better delete it before upsetting the LEO's

Tripper

[Tripper]

with or without tint, in pouring rain, i put down all my windows and at night i turn on the dome light.

the stupid punk/criminal comment is referred to as 'jaded' me thinks
is it not legal because of law, or because its not liked? just curious

I much prefer LEO's have the tools available to them to make a stop when they feel necessary, but if cops are stopping drivers just for the window tint, i think they are really pushing it and wasting my tax paying dollar. stopping for tint to hopefully find something else to really support further detention i'm ok with, but if a cop stops and tickets 'just' for tint, thats unacceptable.

anytime i've been pulled over for tint, they approach the car, say something about the tint, we talk a bit, and they say have a nice day.

Tripper