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  • #31
    Notorious
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4695

    Even the Feds put "POLICE" on their raid vests and jackets with the exception of the FBI. Marshals, ATF, ICE, etc., all do it. It's just more recognized. The Chinese police put "POLICE" on their vests too for the Olympics instead of their usual markings.
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    • #32
      ro442173
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 1042

      It's the CTU.

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      • #33
        Notorious
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4695

        Who's CTU?
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        • #34
          biglou
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1317

          Counter Terrorist Unit: Jack Bauer

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          • #35
            ArtSki
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 87

            I might be wrong, but I thought security companies were supposed to mark their patrol vehicles and uniform patches with a word "security". I believe this was per BSIS. These guys are deffinetly a private company, same as ADT, Westec and all the other alarm response companies. I wonder how they get away with it.

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            • #36
              Cpl. Haas
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2006
              • 2098

              Originally posted by Notorious
              Even the Feds put "POLICE" on their raid vests and jackets with the exception of the FBI. Marshals, ATF, ICE, etc., all do it. It's just more recognized. The Chinese police put "POLICE" on their vests too for the Olympics instead of their usual markings.
              Even the Marshals Service and ICE are starting to put POLICE on their vests and raid jackets:





              I've also seen ATF with POLICE, but I couldn't find a photo... seems like FBI are the only ones still rolling without... but then, they're the FBI.



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              • #37
                BigJim_610
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 261

                If only that were true

                that goes to show you that California is indeed two different states.[/QUOTE]



                Originally posted by Notorious
                We had that type of setup here with the Ontario Airport Police who were called public safety an were cross trained as fire responders. They decided it wasn't working and went to police and fire separately. In SoCal, I don't think we have that type of setup anymore. If there are some in NorCal, that goes to show you that California is indeed two different states.

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                • #38
                  bobfried
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1448

                  Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
                  I love just hitting the gas on the freeway when I see these posers and speed right past them in my POV. You know that just irks them 'cause they can't pull anyone over and write them a ticket.
                  A few years ago a friend of mine was pulled over by a security guard down in San Diego. He thought it was an actual police vehicle since it was late night and they only saw the front of the cruiser as they drove past the guy. The guy lit them up and initiated a vehicle stop, this was all in a public street, nowhere near private property. When the security guard walked up and started asking them questions he saw that it was a security guard. The funny part:

                  The ride he was in was an un-marked GOV carrying a strike team in full gear.

                  They ripped that guy a new one and I doubt that security guard had a job for much longer after that.

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                  • #39
                    planedude86
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 95

                    Originally posted by Notorious
                    We had that type of setup here with the Ontario Airport Police who were called public safety an were cross trained as fire responders. They decided it wasn't working and went to police and fire separately. In SoCal, I don't think we have that type of setup anymore. If there are some in NorCal, that goes to show you that California is indeed two different states.
                    As CSDGuy mentioned, Sunnyvale has a Fire/EMS/Police Public Safety Department. When they hire, they want people with previous LE experience and many applicants have previous EMS/Fire experience. Many departments in other states operate similarly, such as in Texas and BNA in Tennessee.

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                    • #40
                      Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4695

                      Originally posted by Cpl. Haas
                      Even the Marshals Service and ICE are starting to put POLICE on their vests and raid jackets:





                      I've also seen ATF with POLICE, but I couldn't find a photo... seems like FBI are the only ones still rolling without... but then, they're the FBI.
                      That's what I said. FBI doesn't do it, all the other agencies do it. Maybe my use of punctuation didn't separate it too clearly... I put FBI... period. Then I listed some other agencies that do it. I've seen them do it as early as the mid-90's and most likely way before but that's when I first saw the US Marshals with "POLICE" on their jackets and raid vests. In Waco, you see the ATF agents with their ATF/POLICE markings on the back of their vests. FBI is just special because everyone knows the Feebs, I guess.

                      I haven't seen it personally in CA, but I wouldn't be surprised if ABC or BNE puts "POLICE" on their gear too. Anyone know if this is a practice with them?
                      Last edited by Notorious; 01-10-2011, 9:27 PM.
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                      • #41
                        BigDogatPlay
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 7362

                        Originally posted by biglou
                        The City of Rohnert Park has Public Safety Officer's. I believe there is at least one City in Northern Cali that does also. They work both Fire and Police on some type of rotating schedule. These are real cops who can cite you and take you to jail. And if you're on fire, they can put you out.
                        On the fire side, they generally have done a good job over the years of saving foundations rather than structures. That's why residents of Rohnert Park historically paid higher fire insurance premiums than comparably sized cities.



                        Rohnert Park and Sunnyvale were the first two full on "public safety" with melded PD and FD responsibilities in Norcal. As mentioned it was a concept du jour for a while but isn't that practical anymore (IMO) given the increased amount of specialization and training both roles require.
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                        • #42
                          J_B
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 522

                          Originally posted by CSDGuy
                          Sunnyvale has a Department of Public Safety. They do Police/Fire/EMS. That department is organized with a Police Department and a Fire/EMS department. All DPS members are cross-trained as Police and Firefighters. They do serve in both roles.

                          However, their cars are "POLICE" emblazoned... not DPS.
                          Same as Rohnert Park..my little bro works there. It's obvious they're the cops. I can't wait till they start hiring again so I can try and lateral.....
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                          • #43
                            pointman1531
                            Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 265

                            Originally posted by The Director
                            Yes! It was these guys!!!!!

                            Now who the hell are they!!!!

                            Wanna bees that couldnt make it in a law enforcement agency OR those that want the experience in hopes of joining a law enforcement agency.

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                            • #44
                              JHermsen
                              Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 398

                              Had a guy from Ranch Santa Fe Security light me up w/amber flashers on I 5 last year, thought I was going too fast. Not only did I laugh my *** off at him, I called his boss.

                              He was an employee long enough to return the vehicle...

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                              • #45
                                Tacit Blue
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 4134

                                Originally posted by JHermsen
                                Had a guy from Ranch Santa Fe Security light me up w/amber flashers on I 5 last year, thought I was going too fast. Not only did I laugh my *** off at him, I called his boss.

                                He was an employee long enough to return the vehicle...
                                Was that their Prius or a Crown vic? lmao.

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