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[2patchHero]

Don't be surprised if you qualify for a gl7 and when you get "the call" they first offer you a gl5 position or tell you, you can continue to wait for gl7 spot but that they don't know when that will be... Happens a lot.

[Recession]

Don't be surprised if you qualify for a gl7 and when you get "the call" they first offer you a gl5 position or tell you, you can continue to wait for gl7 spot but that they don't know when that will be... Happens a lot.

I've heard similar stories of GL-5's being called before GL-7's. Government saves money on hiring an able body that more than capable of doing the same duties as a GL-7.

[SIP2000GLO]

Read the fine lines. Even if you're lucky enough to make GS-5 or 7, don't argue with me.

[bobfried]

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[Recession]

Take SIP2000GLO advice Recession.

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Why? He makes no valid point and I've already rebutted all his arguments. Unless you have law enforcement experience, which he wasn't talking about, then you must have higher education, which he says is not required to make GL-7.

[Recession]

Read the fine lines. Even if you're lucky enough to make GS-5 or 7, don't argue with me.

I've read the fine lines numerous times even before this thread. Unless you have law enforcement experience, to qualify for GL-7, you need a bachelors degree or higher.

I've already made GL-5 so you don't have to worry about that. Maybe you should look into obtaining a higher education so that YOU can attempt to make GL-7 and maybe just maybe learn some new words to come up with a better response instead of just repeating my "don't argue with me" remark to you.

[SIP2000GLO]

That 60K could have gone to other better use.

[Recession]

That 60K could have gone to other better use.

Yeah, like a muzzle for your trap.

[bobfried]

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[Recession]

I know your just ribbing the guy, but I'll be damn if that education didn't do you much good, especially in reading comprehension. Education definitely does not buy common sense and your lacking it right now.

If you keep responding like that your going to have a hard time in the future. Remember what sub-forum you are in and who it is that is responding to your posts.

Here's a hint:
YOU, unlike some of US, are just an APPLICANT.

There is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension. My education has done me well, that is why I can argue off invalid reasoning with logic. But you seem to not be comprehending what I'm saying. All I have done is repeat exactly what is written on BP's website, which states that unless you have law enforcement experience, in order to qualify for GL-7 pay grade, you are required to have a bachelors degree with a superior gpa, 1 year of graduate studies, or law school. What part of that don't you understand and what part of that comes off as lacking sense?

I could care less who you or any other person in this subforum is. We are all just "people". Are you LEO? Better yet, are you BP? Well good for you. First off, I would like to thank you for serving the community and putting your life at risk to protect us. Second, lose the superiority complex. Just because you are LEO doesn't make you any better than anyone else here so don't try to use that to put yourself on top of a pedestal and belittle me.

[veeklog]

Halfway through 1997, when I was getting ready to finish school, I tested for the Border Patrol. Then the WAITING started. I finally finished college, and still no job. I waited a year out of college before December 1998, when I got a Fed Ex package telling me I was hired as a GS-05 making $27500 USD a year. That wait wasn't as bad as taking the TEA in March 2000 to jump to a criminal investigator with then Customs O.I.; I didn't get hired with them till 2002.

For those stressing, all I can say is this: be patient and you will get hired. My best advice is to relax, get into very decent PT shape, practice a "little" Spanish, and have fun for a while. Because believe me, it won't be fun after you are hired!

[Recession]

Halfway through 1997, when I was getting ready to finish school, I tested for the Border Patrol. Then the WAITING started. I finally finished college, and still no job. I waited a year out of college before December 1998, when I got a Fed Ex package telling me I was hired as a GS-05 making $27500 USD a year. That wait wasn't as bad as taking the TEA in March 2000 to jump to a criminal investigator with then Customs O.I.; I didn't get hired with them till 2002.

For those stressing, all I can say is this: be patient and you will get hired. My best advice is to relax, get into very decent PT shape, practice a "little" Spanish, and have fun for a while. Because believe me, it won't be fun after you are hired!

Good info and advice.

[bobfried]

Withdrawn.

[SIP2000GLO]

Originally Posted by bobfried View Post
I know your just ribbing the guy, but I'll be damn if that education didn't do you much good, especially in reading comprehension. Education definitely does not buy common sense and your lacking it right now.

If you keep responding like that your going to have a hard time in the future. Remember what sub-forum you are in and who it is that is responding to your posts.

Here's a hint:
YOU, , are just an APPLICANT.


You read my mind. Book savy does not mean street smart nor common sense. That's what save your life.

They'll learn bobfried! A few just end up in a body bag for their mistakes. Hopefully, their lack of common sense does not drag anyone else with them. They are lucky if they make it through 3 months of probation. Their FTOs are gonna have a field day with them. It's not college anymore nor mom and pop's house. Welcome to the real world.

[veeklog]

Originally Posted by bobfried View Post
I know your just ribbing the guy, but I'll be damn if that education didn't do you much good, especially in reading comprehension. Education definitely does not buy common sense and your lacking it right now.

If you keep responding like that your going to have a hard time in the future. Remember what sub-forum you are in and who it is that is responding to your posts.

Here's a hint:
YOU, , are just an APPLICANT.


You read my mind. Book savy does not mean street smart nor common sense. That's what save your life.

They'll learn bobfried! A few just end up in a body bag for their mistakes. Hopefully, their lack of common sense does not drag anyone else with them. They are lucky if they make it through 3 months of probation. Their FTOs are gonna have a field day with them. It's not college anymore nor mom and pop's house. Welcome to the real world.

I am going to throw in my .02 cents into some of the previous posts. There is an old saying in law enforcement: "if they like you they will make fun of you to your face; if they hate you, they will make fun of you not only to your face but behind your back." In other words, in this job, law enforcement personnel bust peoples balls all the time, and when they do, they are looking to see what sense of humor you have but also see how thick skinned you are.

In the last several years, I have seen a serious sense of "entitlement" across the board in many law enforcement trainees that have been hired. Your first year on the job you are learning how to "survive" on the job and see if you have the fortitude to do this kind of work. Your training officers are pushing you to the edge because they want to see if you will break under stress; some have a power trip and are just jerks, but for the most part, most want you to make training because they know you will be backing them up in the future and you might be watching each others backs.

As a former PA, I can say that the job of Border Patrol Agent is one of the most dangerous jobs in law enforcement. You patrol many desolate areas where back up can be close or very far away. You handle large groups of immigrants where most are calm and adhere to your commands, but many times, especially if you work in San Diego sector, you get large numbers of deported prison inmates where all they want to do is fight and want to take that badge and gun and shove it up your a*s. Why? Because they want to make it across the border, and they have nothing to lose if they corner you and hurt you. Then you have the drug back-backers, and that is another story.

Many of us on this board want to help new LEO's/investigators make it through training and succeed in this job; you are the future of our profession and one day you will not only be watching my back but replacing us. After all, all of us have a "shelf" life and eventually we retire and move on. So when some of us give new applicants advice based on previous experience, please adhere to that advice and take it in stride. It may not only save your life but save many of you grief as well.

I also will give one more piece of advice to most of you applying for Border Patrol positions: PLEASE watch, listen, and keep your mouth shut, especially in the academy. It will get back to your duty station, and some hard nosed PA from the "old" academy will make you pay when you get to your station. Yes, the Border Patrol Academy drastically has changed since they moved to Artesia in 2006; some of the crap we went through in Glynco and Charleston would not be tolerated today. Granted, it has been nine years since I was a PA, but I still have many friends who are still working in the BP, and for the most part, it has not changed.