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  • biglou
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1317

    El Monte PD

    They keep showing the news video of the El Monte Officer booting a gangbanger in the head. These news clips never tell the whole story. I know you can't just turn off the adreniline like a switch. Like I said we don't know the details, but there are news copters/cameras everywhere. Or is it a combo of adrenaline/tunnel vision ?
  • #2
    stormy_clothing
    Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 2809

    from the urban dictionary

    gangbanger 313 up, 129 down
    a person belonging to a gang. usually not able to "man up" and stand on his own, therefore has to rely on others for support. sometimes referred to as a *****.

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    • #3
      BONECUTTER
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 2263

      I would guess he was telling the guy to look away concerned he could still be planning something. The guy didn't and got booted. Not the best choice of moves.....the high five didn't help either. Though I'm sure the high 5 was move of a "yes, we caught him" it will be portrayed as "Hey, nice kick".

      I think anyone who runs should get tazered on nation TV after the news crews show up. It would cut down on runners because no one wants to scream like a little girl and wet themselves on TV for their homies to see.

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Just watched the video. I can't see how the 1st officer is going to be able to say anything that could justify the boot to the face other than just being stupid. By the time the 2nd office got there, the guy pulled his arm under his body, which might justify his blows with fists/baton.

        The high fives with the K9 handler are just plain idiotic.

        There is no way to chase someone in the LA area for more than a couple of minutes without getting a squadron of news choppers overhead, adn every cop knows (or should know) that fact. You're gonna be live on multiple channels, it's part of the LA media culture. They drop all programming to show a pursuit, just praying to catch us doing something stupid.

        At least El Monte's chief isn't blindly throwing them to the wolves. He's already opened an internal investigation. They've got a pretty good department in my opinion. I worked with them a lot when I worked a neighboring station years back.

        Rough road ahead for them.......

        Meanwhile, Johnny No-Good the banger just hit the lotto. He got jumped a lot harder when he got into EMF. One kick to the face will probably get him some $$$. The lawyers are already lining up.
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        • #5
          gotgunz
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 1972

          Link to video?

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by gotgunz
            Link to video?
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            • #7
              glockman19
              Banned
              • Jun 2007
              • 10486

              What I saw was a guy who gave up. Laying prone. palms down.
              IMHO, no reason to kick the guy in the face, he was submitting.

              Lucky for him he wasn't holding a cell phone.

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              • #8
                Erik S. Klein
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 202

                Originally posted by glockman19
                What I saw was a guy who gave up. Laying prone. palms down.
                IMHO, no reason to kick the guy in the face, he was submitting.
                Agreed.

                The cop was 100% unjustified and was just being a prick.

                Hopefully he'll soon be an unemployed prick.

                Sadly, since he's a cop, he won't be a felony assault convicted prick, even though that's what he deserves (the rest of the cops there should be charged with accessory to felony assault and failure to do their duty in arresting a felon.)
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                • #9
                  yzErnie
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 6310

                  Originally posted by Erik S. Klein
                  Agreed.

                  The cop was 100% unjustified and was just being a prick.

                  Hopefully he'll soon be an unemployed prick.

                  Sadly, since he's a cop, he won't be a felony assault convicted prick, even though that's what he deserves (the rest of the cops there should be charged with accessory to felony assault and failure to do their duty in arresting a felon.)
                  Opinion are like buttholes...everyone has one. I'll side with the Chief on this one and reserve judgement until all of the facts are known. Unfortunately, the only folks who will know ALL of the facts is the Internal Affairs Division of the police dept.
                  The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                  Originally posted by RazoE
                  I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                  • #10
                    DLaw
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2074

                    Although it was dumb to boot the guy in the face, I have no sympathy for gangbangers...

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                    • #11
                      bluestaterebel
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3052

                      Originally posted by yzernie
                      Opinion are like buttholes...everyone has one. I'll side with the Chief on this one and reserve judgement until all of the facts are known. Unfortunately, the only folks who will know ALL of the facts is the Internal Affairs Division of the police dept.
                      +1
                      Originally posted by 11Z50
                      Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                      Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                      • #12
                        kalguns
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 607

                        I think if you run from the cops (like a coward) they should have the right to kick your *****. It should be a law.
                        If you get away great. More powere to you.
                        But if you run you should know if I get caught you are getting a beating.
                        I think less people would run.
                        Less people would be put in danger also.
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                        "License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit -- ever. They're like the Viet Cong. Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote." --Carl Spackler--

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                        • #13
                          bluestaterebel
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 3052

                          Originally posted by kalguns
                          I think if you run from the cops (like a coward) they should have the right to kick your *****. It should be a law.
                          If you get away great. More powere to you.
                          But if you run you should know if I get caught you are getting a beating.
                          I think less people would run.
                          Less people would be put in danger also.
                          The public couldnt handle it, obviously
                          Originally posted by 11Z50
                          Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                          Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                          • #14
                            RANDO
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 2460

                            **** the guy hes a gangbanger its karma.

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                            • #15
                              Jonathan Doe

                              Yes, the news media shows what they want to show. They create a public outrage or form the opinion for them. They should let the department conduct an investigation and go from there. There are too many cases where public doesn't know the details of a case and try the officers and find them guilty already.

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