ADCO firearms Not CA or L/E friendly

[Ron-Solo]

I agree with CavTrooper here. I get embarassed by some of our fellow officers who think they are God's gift to this earth. I don't respect them either. Because we share the same job should mean I should defend their every action?

Who ever said we were "Gods gift to the earth?" I said it takes a special kind of person to do the job we do, which is true. That dosen't mean we are better than anyone else.

By the way, the comparison of police medals to uniformed military service is laughable.

I never compared law enforcement to military service. You can't compare the two. Even MP service doesn't compare to law enforcement. They have similarities, but are no where close to the same thing. Someone said I'd probably wet myself if I ever got in a sticky situation. I listed the medals simply to indicate I'd been in my share (and probably someone else's) and haven't yet.

It sounds like you have done a lot in your police career. Congratulations (an I mean that sincerely).

Thanks

However, you and I do nothing nearly as brave or honorable as serve in a foreign war.

No disrespect to anyone who has served in the military (in war or not), but how do you come to that conclusion? You don't need war to demonstrate bravery or honor. I have seen courage deomonstrated many times by unarmed civilians in a gang infested neighborhood, pulling kids out of the line of fire in the middle of a gang shootout, or the neighbor who wakes up in the middle of the night and pulls his neighbor out of a burning apartment as we pull up. BTW, I do have some experience with the US Army in 1974-75, although I never saw combat.

Finally, I have disagreed with BWO on many issues. However, throwing the "anyone can get an MP costume" card out is silly. Please stop embarassing yourself.

My response was directed at his anti-law enforcement attitude and that a photo of him in an MP uniform did not make him law enforcement, nothing more.

Just getting tired of anti-law enforcement attitude in a Law Enforcement forum.

[Ron-Solo]

You have a lot of forums that nobody can get into, why don't you just go there.

This is a LAW ENFORCEMENT FORUM isn't it?

We are for Constitutional Rights, and if you don't like it, why don't YOU just go away.

When was the last time you stepped into a dangerous situation to protect someone else's Constitutional Rights?

Guidelines for this forum:

Calguns LEOs LEOs; chat, kibitz and relax. Non-LEOs; have a questions for a cop? Ask it here, in a CIVIL manner.


And just to give you a look into the crystal ball, anyone against those rights will lose in the end. They will end up like the Gestapo, running as they they shed their uniforms. Don't be one of them.

Sorry, this one just doesn't make sense. Sounds like anti-law enforcement dribble to me.

Law Enforcement is the front line to defending everyone's Constitutional Rights.

[MIB]

In the words of the great prophet, "Can't we all just get along?"

--Rodney King, 1992

[Jonathan Doe]

Although the LEO's are technically peace officers of California 24/7, when they are off duty, they want to be just like anyone else, relax and enjoy life with the family. Maybe people should understand it.

I understand there are people who dislike LEO's and have difference in opinions. I believe it is a healthy thing. But, I am disturbed by occassional flat out hatred towards LE in general.

[Matt C]

Law Enforcement is the front line to defending everyone's Constitutional Rights.

LOL, the funny thing is the reason I don't want to be a cop anymore is the fact that LEO are constantly VIOLATING people's constitutional rights which puts other LEOs in a very awkward position. And you are right this conversation does not belong on this forum, but you are the one bringing it up.

[pcesar]

LOL, the funny thing is the reason I don't want to be a cop anymore is the fact that LEO are constantly VIOLATING people's constitutional rights which puts other LEOs in a very awkward position. And you are right this conversation does not belong on this forum, but you are the one bringing it up.

[Matt C]

Are you in LE? Because honestly you don't know what you are talking about.

[robsolo]

LOL, the funny thing is the reason I don't want to be a cop anymore is the fact that LEO are constantly VIOLATING people's constitutional rights which puts other LEOs in a very awkward position. And you are right this conversation does not belong on this forum, but you are the one bringing it up.

That's like saying I don't want to be a school teacher anymore because school teachers are constantly molesting their students.

[Matt C]

That's like saying I don't want to be a school teacher anymore because school teachers are constantly molesting their students.

Not really, reporting a fellow teacher who is molesting students would be strongly encouraged by fellow teachers and administrators, whereas reporting a fellow officer "bending the rules" to "put away a bad guy" would likely not receive a very warm welcome.

[nobody33]

Not really, reporting a fellow teacher who is molesting students would be strongly encouraged by fellow teachers and administrators, whereas reporting a fellow officer "bending the rules" to "put away a bad guy" would likely not receive a very warm welcome.

You realize The Shield is not real life right?

[Matt C]

You realize The Shield is not real life right?

I realize that cops make up PC every day. Are you suggesting that they don't?

[nobody33]

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[Matt C]

Probable cause? Yeah I am. I've never done it nor seen it done. I don't need to, nor does anyone else. As long as people fail to maintain their cars, refuse to put front plates on them, speed, and parole and probation dumps load of people onto my beat, I don't need to make stuff up. And I make double digit felony arrests every month.

I'm not referring to PC for stops, although I know that occurs as well, if more rarely, but for searches. Unless you are implying that a lack of front plates is somehow PC for a vehicle search.

[nobody33]

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[Jonathan Doe]

I'm not referring to PC for stops, although I know that occurs as well, if more rarely, but for searches. Unless you are implying that a lack of front plates is somehow PC for a vehicle search.

A lot of times, the traffic stop leads to PC to further investigation of the crimes, ie. DUI, Drugs, guns, etc. Please do not lump all LEO's as bad ones.