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  • #46
    Matt C
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 7128

    Originally posted by CaliTheKid
    That guy is living in fantasyland. I can't imagine asking the Sheriff of my department (which is exactly he is esentially asking) for a letter to buy hi cap mags for duty. The law exists so we don;t have to do that.
    These mags were OBVIOUSLY not for duty. I'm sure he would take a letter from an LT on letterhead.
    I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

    The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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    • #47
      nobody33
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 298

      Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
      You have absolutely jack to support that, you don't know the guy or who he sells to.
      =====
      Last edited by nobody33; 06-18-2020, 8:56 PM.

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      • #48
        Matt C
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2006
        • 7128

        Originally posted by nobody33
        I don't hear people crying about the military on Pendelton or the movie studios for having all the toys like select fire guns, but there's a lot of crying about LEO's getting hi cap mags?
        So, let me get this straight, you are comparing what the military gets in order to fight battles on foreign soil to what civilian LE gets? Like the two have anything to do with each other?

        The studios use the guns only as props and control them quite a bit more securely than LE or even the military does, so I don't see how that is even an issue.
        I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

        The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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        • #49
          yzErnie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2007
          • 6309

          Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
          These mags were OBVIOUSLY not for duty.
          Not wanting to sound rude so please don't read that into this question...

          How is it you know they are not for duty practice? Many deparments have MP5's and the GSG-5's would be an excellent training tool at a much less expensive cost for ammo.
          Last edited by yzErnie; 05-11-2009, 12:06 PM.
          The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

          Originally posted by RazoE
          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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          • #50
            yzErnie
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2007
            • 6309

            Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
            he felt that since he was a cop he deserved special treatment and that he was above the law that applied to everyone else. He may actually be above that law, but thankfully business owners still have the free to tell him to F off.
            Noone is above the law in this scenario as the law ALLOWS him to own those mags. Being above the law would be asking for them when he is not allowed to have them and believe he is exempt from the law. That is OBVIOUSLY not the case here.
            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

            Originally posted by RazoE
            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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            • #51
              Matt C
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2006
              • 7128

              Originally posted by yzernie
              Not wanting to sound rude so please don't read that into this question...

              How is it you know they are not for duty practice? Many deparments have MP5's and the GSG-5's would be an excellent training tool at a much less expensive cost for ammo.
              If it's for training he can use 10 round mags, the 22rd mags would not be the same capacity either.

              Originally posted by yzernie
              Noone is above the law in this scenario as the law ALLOWS him to own those mags. Being above the law would be asking for them when he is not allowed to have them and believe he is exempt from the law. That is OBVIOUSLY not the case here.
              The legislature exempted him from a law that most people are subject to. They did so IMO because they did not want to prevent officers from having the same firepower as criminals they may encounter while on duty who would ignore the high cap mag laws. They did not create the exemption so officers could have better toys than the rest of us.

              There are plenty of places locally that officers can buy high caps for DUTY weapons with just a badge, at least around LA. The same dealers probably don't stock .22 high caps for obvious reasons.
              I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

              The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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              • #52
                robsolo
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 114

                Thanks OP for the heads up. I'll stay away from ADCO.

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                • #53
                  yzErnie
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 6309

                  Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
                  The legislature exempted him from a law that most people are subject to.
                  You are correct, that is the law and any further discussion is pointless.
                  The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                  Originally posted by RazoE
                  I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                  • #54
                    Matt C
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7128

                    Originally posted by yzernie
                    You are correct, that is the law and any further discussion is pointless.
                    I think there is a point to be made that such laws only foster the attitude that many LEOs have where they think they are superior in some way to the average person on the street.
                    I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                    The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                    • #55
                      matrix056
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 684

                      Why do LEO's need hi-cap mags???
                      West Hollywood shootout, Columbine, Virginia Tech, active shooter situations and for every parolee that already HAS 30 round mags.....

                      No, some Departments dont issue AR's, magazines, .223 ammo for patrol riflemen. Thanks Joe Sun, for your brilliant comment.

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                      • #56
                        trendar5
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1014

                        Blackwater Ops, again, what is your question for a LEO on this forum? Do you really think you can make that point here? What are you going to do if there is some kind of mass casualty attack? I'm going to work! And I'm bringing all my "off duty" high cap mags with me, with some water and socks. You sit tight, I'll go into the fray. Am I superior, no. I have a strange job.

                        Further, I don't think that an officer in CA trying to buy some hi-cap mags is trying to feel like a special class of human being. Don't hate the cops, hate the magazine capacity restrictions.

                        It does not matter in the slightest if the magazines are for "duty" use or not. That is not part of the law. Department letterhead for a magazine purchase is not acceptable. In the end, the guy is just losing a sale....

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                        • #57
                          Matt C
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7128

                          Originally posted by trendar5
                          In the end, the guy is just losing a sale....
                          And that's his decision. And I applaud it.
                          I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                          The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                          • #58
                            yzErnie
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 6309

                            Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
                            I think there is a point to be made that such laws only foster the attitude that many LEOs have where they think they are superior in some way to the average person on the street.
                            Attitudes go both ways.....
                            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                            Originally posted by RazoE
                            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                            • #59
                              DLaw
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2074

                              Did I mention also that ADCO is a site sponsor at Arfcom and so my thread that I posted in Brothers of the shield about Adco's feelings toward CA leo's was locked and trashed...

                              Again his company his rules and I'm fine with that but California leo's spend your money elsewhere.

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                              • #60
                                5hundo
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2210

                                GOOD!

                                I'm glad he doesn't sell product to CA LEOs...

                                If every gun manufacturer did the same, there would be no gun ban. I agree with his policies, which appears similar to Barrett's. Continue giving CA customers their products but refuse to do business with the state.

                                +1 ADCO!!!!

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