ADCO firearms Not CA or L/E friendly

[yzErnie]

It appears the guy that was trying to buy the mags is in compliance with the Cali law. Like it or not, Cali has afforded the purchase of high cap mags to law enforcement personnel. The bias and harsh words displayed toward LEO's (not just in this thread) for taking advantage of the law is unsettling.

I guess the bottom line is we as buyers can do business with any vender we choose.

[joe_sun]

I'm backing Adco on this. There is ZERO reason for cops to be allowed to buy high caps when the unwashed masses aren't allowed to buy them.

[slowjonn]

There is ZERO reason for cops to be allowed to buy high caps when the unwashed masses aren't allowed to buy them.

Except that thing called the California Penal Code which allows for it. Geez there is a lot of whining on this issue. I don't like the laws anymore than the rest of you. That said, it is what it is and there is not one person on this forum that would not take advantage of that opportunity if it was afforded to them. Myself included!

[WallyGeorge]

Still waiting for a link to the original post...

I'll admit that if he really told the customer to F-off, then that is disrespectful and needs to be dealt with. However, you need to post something to validate this ASAP!!! when making an allegation like this.

[trendar5]

I have to totally agree with Yzernie. I wonder what joe sun, Blackwater Ops, and thedrickel are even doing "contributing" to this forum? It is for LEO's, or for people to ask LEO's a question civilly, not blame cops for the hi-cap ban.

Cops don't make the laws about being allowed to have hi-cap mags. I doubt most cops are against civillians having high-cap mags. Its not a "privelege" to go to the next school, workplace, or mall mass shooting, or enter the home of a whole family slaughtered by the husband. It is a calling. If you have the desire and ability to be a cop, and all that comes with it, you can have the glorious perk of hi-cap mags, or you can possibly move to another state. All the officers remembered at the memorial in Sacramento this past week sure got "special treatment" when they got murdered doing their job.

Its not the fault of the police that the gun laws are the way they are. Very few of us hold elected office.

[DLaw]

I don't think he's anti-cop, looks like he's anti special privileges for cops.

Hey and that's fine, but does he need to be a jerk about it?

[DLaw]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=138&t=173569&page=5

[yzErnie]

After reading that thread I came to this conclusion...there are only two people who know who the jerk was in the attempted purchase and they are the seller abd the potential buyer. I can understand ADCO's opinion on the rules here but the buyer is lawfully allowed to buy them. I will say, IMHO, ADCO went over the top with his "F-him" comment on a public message board. If he wanted to tell the guy that in their private conversations I say fine but on a public message board that was, again IMHO, inappropriate.

[DLaw]

After reading that thread I came to this conclusion...there are only two people who know who the jerk was in the attempted purchase and they are the seller abd the potential buyer. I can understand ADCO's opinion on the rules here but the buyer is lawfully allowed to buy them. I will say, IMHO, ADCO went over the top with his "F-him" comment on a public message board. If he wanted to tell the guy that in their private conversations I say fine but on a public message board that was, again IMHO, inappropriate.

My thoughts exactly...

[Matt C]

ACDO explanation:

I dont give any special treatment to anyone based on their chosen profession. When someone claiming to be a LEO in CA contacted me about shipping 22rd GSG mags, I said sure, I just need a signed letter by the chief on Dept. letter head that it was for duty use and I would send the mags to the address on the letterhead. The reply I received was that as a LEO, he was exempt from the CA laws and the signed letter by the chief was not necessary. I asked around and found as a cop he was "entitled" to items fellow, unworthy CA gun owning residents could not posess. That, IMO is bull****.

I politely told him to pound sand.

My policy for LE discounts is the same. Dept. Letterhead signed by the chief stating its for duty use, shipped to the Dept. I'm not going to help anyone fund their hobby, because their resume includes the word "Law Enforcement Officer".

It's not a hate thing, I dont treat anyone different based on their occupation. Ditch diggers get the same pricing and service as Dentists or Electrical Engineers....

ETA - yes, Dept. Letterhead for the mags would have gotten them shipped, and still would today.

I said **** him, not **** cops. I'm anti anyone who thinks they are entitled to special privileges because of their job no matter what it is.

I agree 100%. It's not like CA LEO are grossly underpaid or something like AD mil folk are. The mags he was asking for were obviously not for duty use, but he felt that since he was a cop he deserved special treatment and that he was above the law that applied to everyone else. He may actually be above that law, but thankfully business owners still have the free to tell him to F off.

[nobody33]

I bet he sells to the movie industry, military, and other "special classes" when he can.

He's just anti cop. The legislature and dems would love for the bans and rules to apply to the cops too. They want an unarmed populace- including the police. The people who won't sell to CA are just playing into that.

[Matt C]

I bet he sells to the movie industry, military, and other "special classes" when he can.

You have absolutely jack to support that, you don't know the guy or who he sells to.

[CaliTheKid]

"I dont give any special treatment to anyone based on their chosen profession. When someone claiming to be a LEO in CA contacted me about shipping 22rd GSG mags, I said sure, I just need a signed letter by the chief on Dept. letter head that it was for duty use and I would send the mags to the address on the letterhead."

That guy is living in fantasyland. I can't imagine asking the Sheriff of my department (which is exactly he is esentially asking) for a letter to buy hi cap mags for duty. The law exists so we don;t have to do that. Adco obviously doesn't want Cali cop biz or he is a grossly ill informed about department politics which I tend to think is not the case. He's just being grandiose and political at the expense of a Cali cop. "Oh look at me-- I'm the king of equality for all". Gimme a break.

And blackwaterops-- you need to stop with the petty digs at cops in your posts. There are like 50 plus other forums here for that.

[CavTrooper]

+1 for ADCO!

They will get my buisness for sure!

[Cypriss32]

The legislature and dems would love for the bans and rules to apply to the cops too. They want an unarmed populace- including the police.

I seriously doudt that buddie...... They want YOU and the Feds to have all the firearms if it ever came down to that.... Just like europe.