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  • Grimjack
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 288

    Price Gouging

    As a LEO I just want to get something off my chest:

    I believe that my brothers in blue on this site that use their unique position to purchase off roster guns and then take advantage of the ridiculous restrictions that California places on our non-LEO gun-loving patriots to sell them at 2 or 3 times the purchase price are no better than some of the criminals they've put behind bars. Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves.

    To those non-LEO gun buyers, I want to apologize. It's unfair that the State has set up this ridiculous system. And it's doubly unfair that some who wear the badge have taken advantage of it. Those of us in Law Enforcement are no better than you, and shouldn't be treated differently.
    "Personal Weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons..."- Col. Jeff Cooper
  • #2
    Beagle
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 370

    That's why a few got arrested. The Pasadena LT was a tad too greedy. Receiving a 6 figure salary, 6 figures rental income and apparently that wasn't enough money.

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    • #3
      LongLiveTheRepublic
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 625

      Originally posted by Grimjack
      As a LEO I just want to get something off my chest:



      I believe that my brothers in blue on this site that use their unique position to purchase off roster guns and then take advantage of the ridiculous restrictions that California places on our non-LEO gun-loving patriots to sell them at 2 or 3 times the purchase price are no better than some of the criminals they've put behind bars. Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves.



      To those non-LEO gun buyers, I want to apologize. It's unfair that the State has set up this ridiculous system. And it's doubly unfair that some who wear the badge have taken advantage of it. Those of us in Law Enforcement are no better than you, and shouldn't be treated differently.
      Thank you, it's unjust that LEOs are allowed "unsafe" handguns creating a privileged class of gun owners that can profit off other underprivileged gun owners... It's not your fault though, CA politicians enjoy creating groups of haves and have nots.

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      • #4
        Arkangel86
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 994

        Thanks GrimJack, the “CA TAX” is the norm unfortunately. Sure do miss SSE
        Guns dont kill people, I kill people

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        • #5
          stevebla
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 732

          Some animals are more equal than others.

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          • #6
            P5Ret
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 6382

            Pretty foolish to assume that everyone selling an off roster handgun obtained if with an LE exemption. If that helps you feel better about yourself knock yourself out, but there are plenty of other's who are selling high that have nothing to do with LE.

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            • #7
              phroggunner
              Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 225

              There is a difference between buying an off roster gun with the intent to sell for a profit, and simply deciding to sell a gun at market value. I have sold exactly 1 off roster pistol (after over 2 years of ownership), and profited approximately $300 over what i paid for it new. If I had sold it for any less, I would have been lining the pockets of the savvy buyer who would likely flip it for his own profit.

              I agree with your sentiments of being ashamed of those who are intentionally profiting from their off roster exemptions. I draw the line, however, at apologizing to the buyers. If they are willing to pay the inflated price, then that is their prerogative.

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              • #8
                Grimjack
                Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 288

                Pretty foolish to assume that everyone selling an off roster handgun obtained if with an LE exemption. If that helps you feel better about yourself knock yourself out, but there are plenty of other's who are selling high that have nothing to do with LE.
                While I never assumed that, my comment was directed at those that do and they are out there, Its certainly likely that a portion of those selling off roster guns are LEO. We are in a unique position to be able to purchase those guns and flip them for profit.

                If you are an LEO and you're not participating in this abhorent behavior I commend you. We go thru our careers being tempted on many levels. While the purchasing and reselling, at huge profit, off roster guns is tacitly legal, I believe its morally bankrupt to take advantage of your position to do so. The only thing that makes it possible is that you have a badge.
                Last edited by retired; 05-02-2019, 12:18 AM.
                "Personal Weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons..."- Col. Jeff Cooper

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                • #9
                  SantaCabinetguy
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 15137

                  Originally posted by P5Ret
                  Pretty foolish to assume that everyone selling an off roster handgun obtained if with an LE exemption. If that helps you feel better about yourself knock yourself out, but there are plenty of other's who are selling high that have nothing to do with LE.


                  In fact, most of the guys I know won't bother with selling off-roster stuff because of all the scrutiny. A stable career and a pension aren't worth $500.
                  Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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                  • #10
                    NORCAL#1
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 675

                    Grim your pretty spot on although not all LEO do this but just about ever PPT done by an Leo to a private citizen that I’ve ever handled the LEO definitely charged them around double what they bought the gun for.

                    Also if you bring this up you will probably catch some flack

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                    • #11
                      downdiver2
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 972

                      Originally posted by Grimjack
                      As a LEO I just want to get something off my chest:

                      I believe that my brothers in blue on this site that use their unique position to purchase off roster guns and then take advantage of the ridiculous restrictions that California places on our non-LEO gun-loving patriots to sell them at 2 or 3 times the purchase price are no better than some of the criminals they've put behind bars. Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves.

                      To those non-LEO gun buyers, I want to apologize. It's unfair that the State has set up this ridiculous system. And it's doubly unfair that some who wear the badge have taken advantage of it. Those of us in Law Enforcement are no better than you, and shouldn't be treated differently.
                      With all this being said, do you happen to have a G43 you would be willing to PPT at a fair market value
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                      • #12
                        rcslotcar
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 1100

                        Too many "Sheep" willing to buy at a high price are the "problem", that they created.

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                        • #13
                          SDnewbieshooter
                          Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 373

                          Definitely appreciate the sentiment. I don't usually dabble in off roster guns precisely since they are too rich for me, but I've also seen ads where an LEO tries to offload a gun for what they have into it and not try to make a profit. To those who do that, I salute you. I long for the day when the roster is a thing of the past.

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                          • #14
                            downdiver2
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 972

                            Originally posted by rcslotcar
                            Too many "Sheep" willing to buy at a high price are the "problem", that they created.
                            Agree! Its 100% a buyers dictated market.
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                            • #15
                              Icypu
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1051

                              If you sell a gun at 20% off what you paid, your buyer will just flip the gun and sell it for $400 more. Pricing it high, but fairly (not just double), is prudent and ensures your buyer actually wants to shoot it. I am mostly directing attention towards people who deliberately buy CDNN's $539 special and then try to sell it for triple. If that's what the op is meaning, I'm all with him. This guy is a good example of using the system.

                              Triple Profit on a $1600 Gun
                              Last edited by Icypu; 04-11-2019, 9:41 PM.

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