National CCW Reciprocity Act

[shojivic]

Anyone see this 60 minutes piece on the Reciprocity act that is working its way through Congress?

It's a moot point for LEOs under current law, but I worry about arming average Joe Citizen, who hasn't gone through much, if any, use of deadly force training.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kroft-talks-guns-and-concealed-carry-reciprocity-act/

[jdfthetech]

". . . but I worry about arming average Joe Citizen, who hasn't gone through much, if any, use of deadly force training"

Police training in use of force in Georgia is 4 hours.

https://www.gpstc.org/training-divisions/basic-training-division/basic-police-officer-training/

I'd suggest if one's so afraid of citizens being armed, then one may be too nervous to be a policeman.

[Country_Jim]

National CCW reciprocity would be a start but I would rather have our Country honor Constitutional carry.

Stay safe everyone.

[shojivic]

". . . but I worry about arming average Joe Citizen, who hasn't gone through much, if any, use of deadly force training"

Police training in use of force in Georgia is 4 hours.

https://www.gpstc.org/training-divisions/basic-training-division/basic-police-officer-training/

I'd suggest if one's so afraid of citizens being armed, then one may be too nervous to be a policeman.

Your chip on the shoulder is showing..

[P5Ret]

Anyone see this 60 minutes piece on the Reciprocity act that is working its way through Congress?

It's a moot point for LEOs under current law, but I worry about arming average Joe Citizen, who hasn't gone through much, if any, use of deadly force training.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kroft-t...ciprocity-act/

Sounds like the argument used by the anti CCW people when Florida went shall issue.

While I agree that there are people who probably shouldn't own guns in the first place that may be able to carry in their home state, I don't think I'd make the blanket statement you did.

I've seen plenty of people do stupid things both with and without guns involved, it's just careless to assume that just because someone doesn't have a use of force training class behind them that things will go badly. Hell plenty of people who have had use of force training have screwed the pooch when it hits the fan.

[Tango_Down]

Dupe. You guys need to use the search function.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1424127&highlight=minutes

[CBR_rider]

I hope national reciprocity passes

[shojivic]

Dupe. You guys need to use the search function.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=minutes

Thanks.. but I intended this post to be a discussion by LE in the Calguns LEOs forum, who may have a little more insight into the issue than the general 2nd Ammend arguments.

But thanks for trying to be "that guy."

[jdfthetech]

Your chip on the shoulder is showing..

so you agree that 'joe citizen' is incapable of understanding use of force?

[jdfthetech]

Thanks.. but I intended this post to be a discussion by LE in the Calguns LEOs forum, who may have a little more insight into the issue than the general 2nd Ammend arguments.

But thanks for trying to be "that guy."

actually. . .just read this, makes it pretty clear where you stand.

You want police to have more access to 2A rights than others.

[shojivic]

^^^ My argument revolves primarily around education, and the lack thereof. Don't presume to know what I think, or argue.

Read this forum's guidelines. It is intended for LEO commentary, and unless you understand this and accept LE experience and non-LE experience may differ, your comments are biased and inflammatory.

[chsk9]

^^^ My argument revolves primarily around education, and the lack thereof. Don't presume to know what I think, or argue.

Read this forum's guidelines. It is intended for LEO commentary, and unless you understand this and accept LE experience and non-LE experience may differ, your comments are biased and inflammatory.

You may want to re-read the guidelines.

I can see that being aware of applicable laws of the States visited could be cumbersome for some people, however I've known more than a few brother LEO that with training were..., so making it a 'LEO or you wouldn't understand' thing is not warranted IMO.

[code_blue]

I am all for constitutional carry and reciprocity, however I am also for mandating the notification to LE under official contact as well as the LE right to inspect or temporarily detaining the firearm(s) during the official contact.

Of course, the inspection and temporary detention of the firearm(s) are up to the discretion of the officer(s). My only requirement is the mandated notification to the officer(s).

[micro911]

Once a citizen gets the CCW license, how often do they have to qualify during the license term? Or, is it on their own?

[chsk9]

Once a citizen gets the CCW license, how often do they have to qualify during the license term? Or, is it on their own?

I believe it depends on the location. I the State of Oregon the county Sheriff issues the license and it is the licensees responsibility to maintain proficiency and knowledge of the applicable laws, as drivers license holders are. The State of Utah issues theirs.