Q: for LEO conserning tailgating

[Dano3467]

P5Ret: no disrespect to you or your daughter, but you reading leans way left of center. (& your daughter is awesome for fighting fires !)

That said it's almost like you take the other side of the equation, sorry but that's how it looks.

Q: for all, if someone is being aggressive towards you or you family, is your fist reaction one of passiveness, do you curl you tail between your legs & run, or is you 1st reaction to be let say not un-aggressive but something else ?

The judgement here is stellar that there is no doubt, but what if YOU were me, what if you felt threatened ? is your 1st reaction to puss out the very 1st reaction now !

The honesty here is lacking big time, some of you act like your some kind of saint, & can not be push into anything. I say BS. you all would of likely done very much like I did, or worse.

If you can't admit that, you can't admit anything, an as being human you fool your self saying different IMHO.

Perfect Human beings do not exist, there was only one who was, an God was well pleased with him. Us on the other hand suck at even the basic human works.

I suppose this is wrong also RIGHT !, an should of pulled over !

[ef9boy88]

You were below speed limit, she decided to show you and push you along. You decided you wou kd get the last laugh by holding her at the stop sign. Sounds like you were both playing who's the bigger jack ***. Btw i drive a honda accord in rush hour monday through Friday. People drive like idiots don't take it personally and it's not your job to punish them. Just my peanuts for the gallery.

[P5Ret]

P5Ret: no disrespect to you or your daughter, but you reading leans way left of center. (& your daughter is awesome for fighting fires !)

That said it's almost like you take the other side of the equation, sorry but that's how it looks.

Q: for all, if someone is being aggressive towards you or you family, is your fist reaction one of passiveness, do you curl you tail between your legs & run, or is you 1st reaction to be let say not un-aggressive but something else ?

The judgement here is stellar that there is no doubt, but what if YOU were me, what if you felt threatened ? is your 1st reaction to puss out the very 1st reaction now !

The honesty here is lacking big time, some of you act like your some kind of saint, & can not be push into anything. I say BS. you all would of likely done very much like I did, or worse.

If you can't admit that, you can't admit anything, an as being human you fool your self saying different IMHO.

Perfect Human beings do not exist, there was only one who was, an God was well pleased with him. Us on the other hand suck at even the basic human works.

I suppose this is wrong also RIGHT !, an should of pulled over !

Sorry not buying your apology, you meant it exactly how you wrote it.

Nor do I see how pointing out the simple fact that your own words show a probable violation of 22400(a) CVC is a left leaning interpretation.

As previously mentioned neither or you were right in your actions, but it isn't a question of who was more wrong or who was more right. At this point it's done nothing is going to change what happened, so why not use it as question of how to avoid future conflicts and options for doing so. Is knowing that law a or b was violated going to change anything or make anyone feel any better?

I got faults and admit it, and if being brutally honest is one of them so be it.

[Dano3467]

Yes I did, I thought your post was bias at the very least.

For your daughter, I meant no disrespect & I apologized, you can take it how ever you want, & looks like you have, so that's on you now.

When people are bias then we've all lost something, but I now view your LEO credentials as somewhat flawed/skewed, & leaning a hard left, thanks for the clarity.

I will likely never view LEO the same again, so thanks for that also.

I hope you sleep good at night knowing how far left you have become.

Enjoy your day.

[dousan]

Lolol
So anyone who doesn't take your side is a lefty

You are a joke.

[P5Ret]

Bias because you fail to see how your own actions contributed to the event, or because I can quote a section of the vehicle code that relates to your description of the event showing what you did?

Maybe you can show me where I showed any bias or absolved the other driver of anything? I simply pointed out that both of you can share some of the blame. Yeah she may have started it, but you sure didn't do anything to to avoid it or minimize it, now did you?

Either way your lame attempts at insults toward me don't mean a damn thing, I've survived this long in my life without speaking a word to you or giving a damn of your opinion of me, I think I'll get by just fine. Enjoy life in your ivory tower where you do no wrong.

[Dano3467]

Did you read ?

The honesty here is lacking big time, some of you act like your some kind of saint, & can not be pushed into anything. I say BS. you all would of likely done very much like I did, or worse.

Sorry dousan but I call them as I see um. & NO your a joke, you fool yourself to thinking you are superior as this statement would suggest. One day you'll too be in a situation, & I personally hope you are treated just like you like deserve. This is not a complement.

You sir need to be schooled that real life isn't all roses, maybe you've been lucky, or silver spooned Idk, but clearly you are bias, & just like schmoozing to gain some notoriety from you fellow CG's, so nice going there.

Now your a hero !

[dousan]

I'm in Orange County.
Nearly in similar situations on a weekly basis. with and without the kids in the back seat of the car. baited by people who tailgate me in the carpool lane, cut over double double yellow lanes and dip in and out of traffic like they have the cure for cancer in the trunk.

Let it go.
I've pulled over to let poeple pass, im not risking my life and fall into their trap. i'll go farther down the road to do a protected left turn (signal) instead of the unprotected one when i got the kids in the back seat to avoid incident. I take a second or tw longer to cross an intersection to wait for the red light runners (which happens with out exaggeration daily when i was driving to aliso viejo on a regular basis). Why put myself in a situation when it could avoided by using my head and maybe cost me an extra 2 mins to arrive alive than a lifetime of regret.

you're a hot head who doesn't listen. its proven in this thread. you don't like the replies you're getting and so everyone is a lefty liberal.

your next step should be picking out grammatical problems of the replies.


im 38 (licensed since 17 y/o). 1 accident in my life (my fault, small fender bender). sure its not a record for no accidents, but i do my best to avoid situations would could have been avoided by keeping my cool and maybe taking a bit longer to arrive somewhere.

best of luck. get that temper under control.

[ARDude]

Wow, OP....take a chill pill. In these kind of situations, avoidance is the best policy. Pull over as far as you can, let her go around. If you have to, drive to a street where you can pull over, so be it. It's better than the situation escalating into hit and run or worse.

You were given advice that you asked for and you don't like it?

What did you want?

[Dano3467]

^^^Something down the middle

You all blind sided me with the left attitude. not expected on a Right leaning forum to such an extreme.

Have a new disrespect for many now, thanks.

In case you missed it NO DAMN PLACE TO DO THIS MYSTICAL PULL OVER.

[code_blue]

It is inappropriate to come to the LEO forum requesting a review and response only to attack the specific people who gave you their review because it's not what you wanted to hear.

If you were issued a CCW, this behavior (incident and response here) is a good indicator for your IA to revoke your permit.

[ARDude]

^^^Something down the middle

You all blind sided me with the left attitude. not expected on a Right leaning forum to such an extreme.

Have a new disrespect for many now, thanks.

In case you missed it NO DAMN PLACE TO DO THIS MYSTICAL PULL OVER.

My point is if you can't pull over and you felt that threatened, go to to a street that is larger where you can pull over.

You want to deescalate the situation. Not allow it to continue. Even if it means YOU have to go out of your way to do so.

Also, how does any of the answers you got, determine if we are to the left or the right?

[Creampuff]

OP you are wrong not all of us would have done the same. Not driving like a jerk does not mean we are acting like saints. It means we are acting like mature adults.

OP please do not consider a CCW. This was the complete opposite of descalation. Just because an action is passive aggressive doesnt mean it is de escalation.

Based on your response to everyone so far I think it is safe to say there were two people with hot tempers on the road that day.

[Dano3467]

^^^So what your saying is slowing down to avoid hitting a merged vehicle is driving like a jerk ? well ok then that's what I was if this is your reasoning.

If you think hitting a merging vehicle is more important that slowing a lose cannon crazy tailgater then, then maybe your on to something.

There will be no winners only losers today on this topic.

As far a CCW I'am a permitted carrier, & this was the last thing on my mind, so again kutos to you fro that stellar insight.

[ef9boy88]

^^^So what your saying is slowing down to avoid hitting a merged vehicle is driving like a jerk ? well ok then that's what I was if this is your reasoning.

If you think hitting a merging vehicle is more important that slowing a lose cannon crazy tailgater then, then maybe your on to something.

There will be no winners only losers today on this topic.

As far a CCW I'am a permitted carrier, & this was the last thing on my mind, so again kutos to you fro that stellar insight.

Let me getvthe straight, you have a CCW and practice passive aggressive escalation instead of deescalation. Man I hope you IA is on here reading this.